Exhaust blown diffusers and FIA restrictions/ban

[feni_remmen]

No matter what the situation with the fairness of the rule changes, the easiest way to clear up this mess is obviously to give these 12 most responsive and resourceful engineering companies on the planet 2 weeks to build new exhaust systems that exit their exhaust gases in an appropriately benign location. This would free up all the engine manufacturers to run any maps they need to and if the correct location is chosen, it would have roughly the same impact upon all the engineering groups, if not the cars... If these teams can't achieve this, then I have no respect for them as engineering organizations...

[djos]

You're wrong about it being out of use since the 80's. Merc provided 2009 data showing they used fuel on the overrun.

You misread me, I said Diffuser blowing has been in use since the 80's, Renaults had this in '83.

[djos]

Btw, to all those who doubted me when I said ages ago that the removal of off-throttle blowing would help Mark, the proof is in his Silverstone Pole Position and the fact that he's been faster than Seb all weekend.

[feni_remmen]

You're wrong about it being out of use since the 80's. Merc provided 2009 data showing they used fuel on the overrun.

You misread me, I said Diffuser blowing has been in use since the 80's, Renaults had this in '83.

Not that I mind, but the first image in the link you supplied is wrongly labelled "Exhaust blown diffuser on Renault RE40 (V6 Turbo) F1", when it is obviously a Williams FW16b".

[Robbobnob]

got to love how the engineers are soo cunning that they'll cause this much trouble though

are Ferrari powered cars in this issue or is it purely Red Bull vs McLaren?

[raymondu999]

I doubt Ferrari will be voting yes too, for that matter.

[marcush.]

the sauber seems to be the car at trouble getting heat into the tyres...with the long sweeping high g cornering there is surely no issue with getting heat into the tyres.. maybe the distribution of temperatures front rear is more the problem.
and with Hamilton losing out to Button it seems to be a front end related issue?

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Red Bull would boycott the race...

http://motorsport.nextgen-auto.com/Red- ... 26406.html

[andartop]

Damn! That would have been good for the championship! Let them [not] race!!

[horse]

Are Ferrari powered cars in this issue?

I for one, did not realise the benefit that the EBD clampdown would bring to Ferrari. They, along with a bunch of other teams it seems (Williams, Force India) obviously were a long way off the ball with this and the decision to restrict EDBs has really made a big difference to them. So it's little surprise to see Ferrari spoiling the opportunity to put it back together again:

Formula 1 faces continued uncertainty as teams fail to reach agreement in exhaust rules row

So what's going on, we're Ferrari simply behind the curve on the whole blowing concept or was the engine simply not up to it?

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

Lobato said only Sauber refuse the sign the agreement.
Lauda also said this on the TV... Autosport said bullshit ?

[Fil]

I hate this... This is not Formula 1... -.-

The sad thing is, this is, and has been for a long time now.


F1 is 90% politics, and 10% motorsport.

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

They all signed the agreement, Bernie said that to the BBC, it seems Autosport said bullshit.

[raymondu999]

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/93016
Autosport now reports that Valencia rules are to stand, Silverstone not. Does this mean that Silverstone points will be annulled as it's the only race with these funky regs?

[Lorenzo_Bandini]

andrewbensonf1 Andrew Benson

To sighs of relief all round, the off-throttle blowing row is over. Ferrari agree to compromise - blowing allowed again from Germany
Stefano Domenicali says he has acted "in the interests of the sport", adding: "I think not many people are behaving like us"