beelsebob wrote:Yep, I've wondered about this quite a bit lately... Is the RB7 *really* faster than the MP4-26?
Is it that the car is faster and webber is doing a mediocre job, or is it that vettel is super fast and he's making it look like the car is faster than the McLarens.
The only hint I can get towards the answer is comments like "wow, you must have 30 points more downforce, you were disappearing through the last corner" after the race. What that doesn't say though is... how much more grip did the chasing driver have in the slow parts? How stable/unstable is each car, etc.
So really, the only way we ever see the car difference is if a driver says to another "wow, we simply couldn't do that in our car, we'd crash".
richard_leeds wrote:izybluffen - we're being good natured!
I'd say the following would be indicators:
- Generally, cars finish where they deserve in the WCC.
- Drivers who are able to achieve a very good finish in an otherwise poor car are likely to do that because they have the talent to take advantage of a perfect alignment circumstance for their car. However, that needs to be replicated to know if it is just luck or a genuine talent shining through.
- For example this season, I'd say Ferrari are probably behind McLaren on pace but Alonso has the talent to challenge RB when circumstances suit his car, while Massa is unable to have those stellar moments.
The above works for drivers at teams competing with other teams. The RB dominance this year means it is impossible to tell how much of that is down to Vettel or the car. If RB were tied on points in the WCC with another team, then we'd know how much Vettel was contributing, as opposed to reaping what has been given to him by Newey.
ringo wrote:The redbull is faster. I don't even need Vettel to show me that.
Webber is enough trust me. You have to look how the car moves. Webber's onboards are amazing, even when he's doing crap
richard_leeds wrote:- Generally, cars finish where they deserve in the WCC.
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