Jos Verstappen: "Schumacher used TC in 1994"

[strad]

Reminds me of parents that when their kids are caught on tape stealing ...still insist it's not their kid. Their kid is good and would never do that...film must be doctored...Not MY Child!!!

[yener]

Schumacher told Ferrari before signed the contract that he wanted a Class 2 driver. So his teammate would not be his rival.
Maybe he saw Jos as a Second class.
That could explain it.

Here in my country we dont take Jos serious anymore since a couple of years.
But i think it's dirty, poor and sad to talk like this.

Schumacher is having a though year again. The car is not doing what he wants and he is not getting yonger.

[yace]

flavio sacked jos at the end of 1994, it would be a good revenge to denounce them at that moment. nelsiniho didn't wait 17 years to evulgate the crashgate...

[Dragonfly]

Simply amazing how long a thread can go on the occasion of an infamous and crap driver opening his mouth to get some publicity.
"Schumacher was so faster than me, so he must have had illegal aids", my a$$ ..

[Raiden]

Reminds me of parents that when their kids are caught on tape stealing ...still insist it's not their kid. Their kid is good and would never do that...film must be doctored...Not MY Child!!!

The flaw in that analogy is that the tape stands for evidence... and you don't have any.

The correct analogy would be a parent whose child is accused of stealing, and replies "you don't have any evidence".

[Raiden]

Schumacher told Ferrari before signed the contract that he wanted a Class 2 driver. So his teammate would not be his rival.
Maybe he saw Jos as a Second class.
That could explain it.

Well Jos was not Schumacher's choice, he was the test/reserve driver. If Schumacher did "choose" a teammate then it was Lehto. Lehto actually did get closer to Schumacher's times than Verstappen before he got injured. But he was still a lot slower. Herbert was closer again than those two, but still slower as he struggled also with the oversteer.

Schumacher didn't tell Ferrari in 1995/1996 that he wanted a class 2 driver. He signed a contract that made him the no.1 guy in the team, but didn't stipulate WHO his teammate would be. Schumacher I believe wanted Berger. He didn't fancy being teammate to Schumacher so he left and they got Irvine.

There is an interesting feature out there when the bbc took a look at the telemetry of Schumacher and Herbert's qualifying laps around Silverstone in 1995. Basically Schumacher's throttle trace is much more smooth and sensitive, with no jaggedy sudden jumps, while Herbert's is much more jagged and aggressive, with sudden lifts and acceleration. Meanwhile Schumacher's steering trace is all over the place with lots of corrections, while Herbert's is smooth.

Schumacher has said something to the effect that the 1995 car was like the 1994 car but even more oversteery and even more difficult to drive. But it was quick if you could control it, and he could control it.

It's also worth noting that, in 1994 (and generally in that era) the time gaps between cars were about twice what they are today. Mistakes cost you more time so the faster drivers gained more time compared to the slower ones. Senna was easily outqualifying Hill by 1.5-2 seconds, for example. Today that would be like outqualifying someone by 0.75-1 seconds.

[Tyler]

Thanks Raiden, interesting bit of reading there.

I actually think Schumacher is going to prove his critics wrong next year by beating Rosberg.
In 2010 he was still finding his feet after a long abscence and everybody knows: Schumacher does not like an understeery car, he likes a pointy car with oversteer.

Why was he quicker than Jos at Benetton?
Not because of traction control, as some have rightly said ''where is the hardware''
There is a good reason why it couldn't be proved he was using TC and that's because he wasn't.

What about '95? - no way he could have got away with using it for 2 whole years!
The reason why he was better than Jos is because the Benetton B194 and B195 were pointy cars with overtsteer, exactly the kind of car Schumacher prefers and which suits his style.
It was a notoriously difficult car to drive and his teammates just couldn't match him in a car with those characteristics.

With Mercedes, Schumacher has had the exact opposite characteristics he wants out of a car.
Personally I'm not surprised he hasn't been able to beat Rosberg when the car suits Rosberg more than him. The car was built for Button who has the complete opposite style to Schumi!
Given the age difference and that the car is more suited towards Rosberg, Schumacher has actually done better than what we think in keeping so close to Rosberg.

I think that if Mercedes can build him a car suited to his style next year, he will be beating Rosberg - watch and see!!!
Funny how for some people it will always be easier to invent excuses for each of the 7 years he won the WDC, rather than to just accept he has talent.

[Giblet]

Schumi needs to up his game to at least Rosberg's level in qualifying before he can even consider beating him. The gap was rather large, and Brawn has said flat out that Nico is better in slower corners.

[Tyler]

Schumi needs to up his game to at least Rosberg's level in qualifying before he can even consider beating him. The gap was rather large, and Brawn has said flat out that Nico is better in slower corners.

Yes, I agree with you but how much of this is down to the car.
We know that the W02 has the type of characteristics that Schumi doesn't like and is more suited to a driver like Button.
It's definitely suited more towards Nico's style than Michaels so it's not unrealistic to think that Michael will gain on Nico if that changes.
By how much remains to be seen.

[strad]

I'm just not sure Micheal is still thirsty enough

[siskue2005]

Schumi needs to up his game to at least Rosberg's level in qualifying before he can even consider beating him. The gap was rather large, and Brawn has said flat out that Nico is better in slower corners.

Dont you think it was down to car setuped for the race rather than Qualy?
then how do you explain Schumy being massively faster in race than Nico?
and Brawn said that last year when Schumy was struggling with the car not this year

[Raiden]

Schumi needs to up his game to at least Rosberg's level in qualifying before he can even consider beating him. The gap was rather large, and Brawn has said flat out that Nico is better in slower corners.

It's true that's where Nico gains most of his time on Schumacher, in the slower corners. In the fast stuff Schumi is still really sharp, so it's not the reactions. He just can't get it hooked up in the slow corners like Rosberg, maybe it's the tyres, who knows.

[Raiden]

Schumi needs to up his game to at least Rosberg's level in qualifying before he can even consider beating him. The gap was rather large, and Brawn has said flat out that Nico is better in slower corners.

Dont you think it was down to car setuped for the race rather than Qualy?
then how do you explain Schumy being massively faster in race than Nico?
and Brawn said that last year when Schumy was struggling with the car not this year

That's true actually, but it makes sense if it is still true this year. How you use the tyres is critical in the slower corners.

[yace]

during the 2nd half of the season, brawn was putting his drivers on different strategies

[wesley123]

@Raiden; or how you use the throttle. And like said before Schumacher is much more sensitive on the throttle. I see Schumacher having a lot more wheelspin than Rosberg