Technology originated from F-1

[Paul]

Indeed! I am currently researching this subject and developing my own software that could automate strategy calls in F1 and could also be adjusted to business applications. Needless to say, I'd love to hear more!

[horse]

That software also analyses the decisions taken by opponents.

Do you think it can do that because they are all using the same piece of software or does one team's software have to guess what the other teams software is doing? Therefore must the first program do something really stupid in order to stop the other one guessing what it is doing correctly?

This must be why RBS bought ABN Amro.

EDIT: It's called Game Theory, by the way.

[WhiteBlue]

AFAIK, first commercial plane to use CFRP was 767 and its first flight was in 1981. They only used it for simple parts such as elevator.

The very same year, Barnard build a CFRP monocoque...

Airbus used carbon fibre composites prior to that on the A300 in 1969 on an elevator and a side rudder.

source:
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl ... ew/900/38/

I'm sure that the 2014 turbo compounding technology will be a first for Automotive use.

[Just_a_fan]

AFAIK, first commercial plane to use CFRP was 767 and its first flight was in 1981. They only used it for simple parts such as elevator.

The very same year, Barnard build a CFRP monocoque...

Airbus used carbon fibre composites prior to that on the A300 in 1969 on an elevator and a side rudder.

source:
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl ... ew/900/38/

I'm sure that the 2014 turbo compounding technology will be a first for Automotive use.

http://www.scania.com/products-services ... index.aspx or is this not the same type of thing?

[Lurk]

@WB: after reading your post I did more researches, I also found that Rolls Royce built a stage of RB211 engine (B747 engine among others) with carbon fiber in 1969. But it seems it never pass the bird ingestion test.

[noname]

http://www.scania.com/products-services ... index.aspx or is this not the same type of thing?

The one used by Scania is more complicated (and I would even say more advanced) than what F1 will bring in 2014.

BTW, it was developed for Scania, not by Scania

[noname]

@WB: after reading your post I did more researches, I also found that Rolls Royce built a stage of RB211 engine (B747 engine among others) with carbon fiber in 1969. But it seems it never pass the bird ingestion test.

GE made composite jet engine in 70's. I know it was tested but further developments were ditched on favor of cheaper solutions.

[Gridlock]

This is a very interesting thread, because popular lore (including parroted by the BBC presenters, I seem to recall) is very much that "technology you see here will be on your car in 10 years"

Now whenever someone said this I always disagreed, pointing out that actually the S-Class merc has introduced more things than F1 - on this thread has yet to prove this wrong.

It's interesting that such a fundamental aspect of F1 (it's where you go to evolve, not to invent) is so widely misunderstood and yet is seen as such a positive thing for the sport.

[Giblet]

http://www.scania.com/products-services ... index.aspx or is this not the same type of thing?

The one used by Scania is more complicated (and I would even say more advanced) than what F1 will bring in 2014.

BTW, it was developed for Scania, not by Scania

Turbo compounding was used by Allison aircraft engines in the 40s. There was a great piece on it a couple years ago in Racetech or Racecar Engineering magazine and how it might relate to F1 down the road.

There is a decent thread here to somwhere.

[Jersey Tom]

It's interesting that such a fundamental aspect of F1 (it's where you go to evolve, not to invent) is so widely misunderstood and yet is seen as such a positive thing for the sport.

Absolutely. The amount of BS that's spun by announcers, "analysts," even higher ups in various organizations... is staggering. Unfortunately most people eat it up at face value.

[Ganxxta]

Ok not F1 in general, but how about Push-Rods and the new Lamborghini Aventador?
Press is saying that this "technology" is directly from Motorsport, was it used before on street cars (I figured Enzo and Carrera GT had it too)?

[Jersey Tom]

Ok not F1 in general, but how about Push-Rods and the new Lamborghini Aventador?
Press is saying that this "technology" is directly from Motorsport, was it used before on street cars (I figured Enzo and Carrera GT had it too)?

Press is full of BS, is what it is.

[Hail22]

http://www.autoblog.com/2012/02/07/2013 ... ta-hybrid/

Volkswagen sponsors STR...possible adaptation of KERS for the new Hybrid?

[noname]

This is a very interesting thread, because popular lore (including parroted by the BBC presenters, I seem to recall) is very much that "technology you see here will be on your car in 10 years".

In some regards that's true, but people understand this as "it was invented by F1/Motorsport", when (sometime) Motorsport is used as a "test bench" for some of the technologies being developed for mass production.

[mx_tifoso]

So in conclusion: nothing originated here.