It's the balance the car has now that makes a huge difference with the tire wear. This is all due to the downforce being properly distributed. Last year's car simply didn't have the proper balance for most of the season, it seems all of their evaluation in the later part of the season has contributed to a much improved package for this season.Shakeman wrote:There would be zero benefit to running light in testing having spent the time trying to dampen expectations. Merc revealed their pace others didn't and they might turn out faster or slower than Merc.
Anyway, it can't just be down to downforce the reason for the bigger operating window the W04 has with tyres, can it? That would seem rather simplistic, no?
Well, more downforce helps to manage the tyres, but they have improved their coanda exhaust solution and added some parts to protect the rear tyres against the heat of the exhaust sytem. Small steps, but it helps.Shakeman wrote:There would be zero benefit to running light in testing having spent the time trying to dampen expectations. Merc revealed their pace others didn't and they might turn out faster or slower than Merc.
Anyway, it can't just be down to downforce the reason for the bigger operating window the W04 has with tyres, can it? That would seem rather simplistic, no?
And what makes you think they got it right this year????TheBaverianBasterd wrote:It's the balance the car has now that makes a huge difference with the tire wear. This is all due to the downforce being properly distributed. Last year's car simply didn't have the proper balance for most of the season, it seems all of their evaluation in the later part of the season has contributed to a much improved package for this season.Shakeman wrote:There would be zero benefit to running light in testing having spent the time trying to dampen expectations. Merc revealed their pace others didn't and they might turn out faster or slower than Merc.
Anyway, it can't just be down to downforce the reason for the bigger operating window the W04 has with tyres, can it? That would seem rather simplistic, no?
Mika1 wrote:Well, more downforce helps to manage the tyres, but they have improved their coanda exhaust solution and added some parts to protect the rear tyres against the heat of the exhaust sytem. Small steps, but it helps.Shakeman wrote:There would be zero benefit to running light in testing having spent the time trying to dampen expectations. Merc revealed their pace others didn't and they might turn out faster or slower than Merc.
Anyway, it can't just be down to downforce the reason for the bigger operating window the W04 has with tyres, can it? That would seem rather simplistic, no?
Wow! I never expect to hear this, but Mercedes fans always suprise me. Downforce is everything, if tires are crap, they can pitstop 100 times in race but if they will go 100 times faster trough corners ITS WORTH IT!Maelstrom wrote:You guys are forgetting a couple of things. It doesn't always matter who has the fastest car or the most downforce.
Wrong, reliability is everything. Otherwise you don't finish the race.Neno wrote:Wow! I never expect to hear this, but Mercedes fans always suprise me. Downforce is everything, if tires are crap, they can pitstop 100 times in race but if they will go 100 times faster trough corners ITS WORTH IT!Maelstrom wrote:You guys are forgetting a couple of things. It doesn't always matter who has the fastest car or the most downforce.
RB6 showed that, that car didnt have any special "care" for tires, they did usualy end up with one more pitstop in race then others in beggining but that car was flying, Sory i will always take downforce, instead of "carrying tires". I am sure Perez would rather drive last year Red Bull then Sauber.
Well if you are fast enough to finish race before youre car fell apart, i am still taking downforce. I that case everything is luck or pure gamble.Mika1 wrote:Wrong, reliability is everything. Otherwise you don't finish the race.Neno wrote:Wow! I never expect to hear this, but Mercedes fans always suprise me. Downforce is everything, if tires are crap, they can pitstop 100 times in race but if they will go 100 times faster trough corners ITS WORTH IT!Maelstrom wrote:You guys are forgetting a couple of things. It doesn't always matter who has the fastest car or the most downforce.
RB6 showed that, that car didnt have any special "care" for tires, they did usualy end up with one more pitstop in race then others in beggining but that car was flying, Sory i will always take downforce, instead of "carrying tires". I am sure Perez would rather drive last year Red Bull then Sauber.
Why do I think they have it right this year?sirexilon wrote:And what makes you think they got it right this year????TheBaverianBasterd wrote:It's the balance the car has now that makes a huge difference with the tire wear. This is all due to the downforce being properly distributed. Last year's car simply didn't have the proper balance for most of the season, it seems all of their evaluation in the later part of the season has contributed to a much improved package for this season.Shakeman wrote:There would be zero benefit to running light in testing having spent the time trying to dampen expectations. Merc revealed their pace others didn't and they might turn out faster or slower than Merc.
Anyway, it can't just be down to downforce the reason for the bigger operating window the W04 has with tyres, can it? That would seem rather simplistic, no?
To me being able to turn on the tires well in a weather condition that it wont be seen in teh entire season, (meaning so cold) is not a good sign, if anything is more of the same as 2012. If you compare the times to last year, the Cars who made the fastest times (not the quickest of the day) were the ones struggling the entire season, Mercedes, Lotus and Williams for example.
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My only point is, Winter Test is really good for the teams, but NOT AT ALL for the fans. (Not complaining here)
There's NOTHING we can get from it and fly it as REAL truth. We never know the fuel loads, and if the Wing combination was meant for Barcelona lap, or what circuit in the calendar. Hence, we can see a bad lap, but if they were testing some sector that it ca represent some other track and just working on it, then it could mean was a great lap for that test, and we only go through what we see in the clock at the end of the day.
So, Until we are back from the Fly away we can't take anything as real. Hey last year even Ferrari looked fast at some days, how funny that seams after the season now?