I totally agree. IMHO, wacky circumnstances coupled with, let's say, a red flag, are the only possibility to get a really bad car to win a GP. That's how Fisi won. Something funny could have happened also in the 2009 Malaisyan GP, but Button was flawless that day.raymondu999 wrote:@Miguel - it's pretty hard to find a performance that really transcends a car nowadays - the talent level of the field is too close really. In reality; if a car wins a race; it would probably be the quickest (surviving) car
It was a moral victory for DH, and for that reason it also gets my vote. To go from barely qualifying at race 1 to showing everyone a clean pair of heals at Hungary including diving up the inside of MS at turn 1 was just amazing. "Drive of a champion" gets used way too often, I think here it was very apt.kalinka wrote:It's a shame that Damon Hill couldn't win in Hungary in 1997 with Arrows.
Have a grudge? Alonso's win in Silverstone was a monstrous drive regardless of circumstances.Websta wrote:Although not a race, the 2005 US Grand Prix winning Ferrari deserves more mention than Alonso's win in Silverstone last season.
Yep. When it got dry in silverstone, once the Ferraris were able to warm the tyres, they were faster than the Macs and didn't seem slower than Red Bull. Singapore 2010 is a better drive from Alonso. It's a bit of a shame that would never happen with DRS cars.raymondu999 wrote:To be fair I think both of them were wins under exceptional circumstances; where circumstances ensured that the Ferraris were the fastest race cars.
You misunderstood me - I meant that the 2005 Ferrari was a worse car. I thought that was quite clear given the title of the thread. I thought Alonso's win in Silverstone was great, he drove the wheels off his car.Pierce89 wrote:Have a grudge? Alonso's win in Silverstone was a monstrous drive regardless of circumstances.Websta wrote:Although not a race, the 2005 US Grand Prix winning Ferrari deserves more mention than Alonso's win in Silverstone last season.
that's what's so tricky about this topic these days isn't it? On the face of it drives such as Panis Monaco 96, Fisi Brazil 2003, etc seem like they're in sh*teboxes of cars, but who knows? On that day in history, the circumstances and nature could have somehow meant that they were fastest on that day.Miguel wrote:My doubt is the fact that the F2012 is good at heating the tyres. Thus, it may actually turn out to be a decent wet weather car. On the dry, McLaren, RB, Williams, Lotus and Perez seemed faster though.