Mexico GP 2015 Confirmed

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Racer X wrote:http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 16144.html

Mexican duo hail Mexico City's F1® return

Sergio Perez and his Mexican countryman Esteban Gutierrez both expressed their delight at the news that Formula One racing is set to return to Mexico City after an absence of more than two decades.
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So which track does it replace?
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GitanesBlondes wrote:To get an idea of what the Peraltada looks like now compared to the early 90s...

http://youtu.be/8rrvRetsx2g?t=2m36s

They took away too much space on the side of the track between then and now.

Compare that to 1992...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lelNF_lkkBs

The safety nannies ruin everything as usual.
Can't help thinking that after that little shunt (by modern standards) Senna looked to be in pain - his movements in the car suggested he'd hurt his back at least.

Yes, safety nannies removing the risk of diver injury. Shame on them.
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gray41 wrote:So which track does it replace?
It could just put the GP count back up to 20 instead of 19.

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From what I've read thePeraltalda is completely dropped for an infield section.
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Just_a_fan wrote:
GitanesBlondes wrote:To get an idea of what the Peraltada looks like now compared to the early 90s...

http://youtu.be/8rrvRetsx2g?t=2m36s

They took away too much space on the side of the track between then and now.

Compare that to 1992...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lelNF_lkkBs

The safety nannies ruin everything as usual.
Can't help thinking that after that little shunt (by modern standards) Senna looked to be in pain - his movements in the car suggested he'd hurt his back at least.

Yes, safety nannies removing the risk of diver injury. Shame on them.
More like it takes out the element of excitement when tracks have endless runoff and Mickey Mouse corners.
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Pierce89 wrote:From what I've read thePeraltalda is completely dropped for an infield section.
Yep, as usual the risk-aversion F1 has rears its ugly head once again.

Hard to believe this was once the same race series that actually was interested in pushing drivers and their cars to the limits.

IndyCar drivers have bigger balls than anyone sitting in a F1 car these days.
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Do I once again have to post the videos from Button and also Hamilton expressing how after having huge shunts they now realize their car to be SO SAFE they can take even bigger risks?
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strad wrote:Do I once again have to post the videos from Button and also Hamilton expressing how after having huge shunts they now realize their car to be SO SAFE they can take even bigger risks?
Do not post it. Is this F1's version of helmets cause more danger because of drives taking risks or sth like that? Like with HANS they just don't care about their neck whereas before they'd be slowing down knowing spine injury was certain? That of course completely ignores the fact that many, many serious incidents have little to do with drivers' choices and risks: mechanical failures, some random events etc. Like in case of Kovalainen 2008 (scariest IMO of the recent seasons) or Hamilton Germany. Who cares about those.

It's another interesting good-old-times syndrome aspect. Kind of schizophrenic approach of over the top mourning of dead heroes and laughing at every measure that would have prevented their demise.

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strad wrote:Do I once again have to post the videos from Button and also Hamilton expressing how after having huge shunts they now realize their car to be SO SAFE they can take even bigger risks?
This is something I've tried telling a lot of people, that the increase in safety actually creates an unsafe driving environment as the drivers believe there is no risk to what they do. Where a driver once would think carefully about the risk/reward of trying an overtake going into a corner where contact is a big risk, they no longer take this into account because there is zero danger to them...or there is a perceived zero danger to them. Once physics takes over, you can never be 100% certain.

At any rate, Hamilton at Hockenheim was a great example heading down to the hairpin when he had that massive lockup trying to outbrake 2 other cars, he wound up making contact there. All I could think, is that had that gone wrong in another era, he would have taken out two other cars plus himself resulting in who knows what.

Racing as a pseudo-combat sport occurred because of safety increases. Chop blocking, dive-bombing, etc. that's the legacy of too much safety.
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So, you would suggest that Ernest Hemingway's famous statement should be amended in light of current experience?

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Considering that thousands now scale Mount Everest annually, perhaps the list has been pared down to just one? :wink:
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SectorOne wrote:
Racer X wrote:http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/ ... 16144.html

Mexican duo hail Mexico City's F1® return

Sergio Perez and his Mexican countryman Esteban Gutierrez both expressed their delight at the news that Formula One racing is set to return to Mexico City after an absence of more than two decades.
In other news, if you drop an object it will fall down.

Yeah it felt redundant but its relevant so i posted the link in case some one might want to read about that.
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http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/story-258574.html
Mexico could close next year's world championship with a 'double points' finale.

That is the claim of FIA vice president Jose Abed, who represents Mexico on the governing body's World Motor Sport Council.



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It was confirmed last week that, after a more than two decade absence, the sport is returning in 2015 to the iconic Mexico City layout, which is being renovated.

It will disappoint some, however, that Abed confirmed to Grupo Formula radio that the exhilarating Peraltada corner will be axed from the new F1 layout.

"Firstly, the old banked curve is too dangerous," he explained, "and the second reason is that we need to accommodate another 40,000 spectators."

But the 2015 Mexican grand prix could be spectacular for another reason, Abed revealed.

"Perhaps we will see the season finale in Mexico -- with double points," he said.
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Wouldn't want racing to be dangerous,, or anything else for that matter. :wink:
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