no more help for the drivers

[skoop]

according to this article (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/115776) the teams asked the fia to forbid help for the drivers from the engineers.
i think it's a great idea. what do you think?
according to AMuS the new interpretation of the rules will start at the singapure gp.

[George77]

I think it is great!

[alexx_88]

I think this will be quite tricky to reinforce given the fact that it will be subject to interpretation by the stewards.

[Andres125sx]

I like the idea, the article is right, drivers are seen as puppets because that´s what they are. Drivers are only important for some very specific situations where his car performs similar to any other, if not, it doesn´t matter if he´s Alonso/Hamilton or Chilton/Ericson....

I´d go further tough, I´d remove more driver aids, but at the wheel. No clutch adjustments, no differential settings, or even brake bias.... That would make cars a lot more difficult to drive so drivers would be a lot more important

[George77]

I like the idea, the article is right, drivers are seen as puppets because that´s what they are. Drivers are only important for some very specific situations where his car performs similar to any other, if not, it doesn´t matter if he´s Alonso/Hamilton or Chilton/Ericson....

I´d go further tough, I´d remove more driver aids, but at the wheel. No clutch adjustments, no differential settings, or even brake bias.... That would make cars a lot more difficult to drive so drivers would be a lot more important

I do not agree with the second part...every driver has his own driving style so he needs to make adjustments...

[langwadt]

I like the idea, the article is right, drivers are seen as puppets because that´s what they are. Drivers are only important for some very specific situations where his car performs similar to any other, if not, it doesn´t matter if he´s Alonso/Hamilton or Chilton/Ericson....

I´d go further tough, I´d remove more driver aids, but at the wheel. No clutch adjustments, no differential settings, or even brake bias.... That would make cars a lot more difficult to drive so drivers would be a lot more important

I do not agree with the second part...every driver has his own driving style so he needs to make adjustments...

and without it is wouldn't be F1, it would be historic racing

[Andres125sx]

I like the idea, the article is right, drivers are seen as puppets because that´s what they are. Drivers are only important for some very specific situations where his car performs similar to any other, if not, it doesn´t matter if he´s Alonso/Hamilton or Chilton/Ericson....

I´d go further tough, I´d remove more driver aids, but at the wheel. No clutch adjustments, no differential settings, or even brake bias.... That would make cars a lot more difficult to drive so drivers would be a lot more important

I do not agree with the second part...every driver has his own driving style so he needs to make adjustments...

And he can do it on practice, that the purpose of FP1, 2 and 3

[Andres125sx]

and without it is wouldn't be F1, it would be historic racing

Then it´s already historic racing, since they´re not using EBD, double diffusers are banned too as electronic suspensions, ground effect is also banned when F1 should use it....

F1 has tons of restrictions to improve the racing and provide more importance to the driver

[Websta]

and without it is wouldn't be F1, it would be historic racing

Then it´s already historic racing, since they´re not using EBD, double diffusers are banned too as electronic suspensions, ground effect is also banned when F1 should use it....

F1 has tons of restrictions to improve the racing and provide more importance to the driver

Ugh, the cars are already difficult enough to drive. Do you think driver aids like TC made the cars simple point and squirt arcade games? The good drivers take whatever machinery they have at their diposal to the limit to get the fastest lap times. Driver aids make the limit higher.

[Moxie]

I look back on 30 odd years of watching F1, and if there was one factor that made an F1 race exciting, corner after corner, it was the manual transmission. Gone are the days of the missed shift. I remember watching my favorite driver under pressure, wondering if he can finish the race without making a mistake...wondering if the gearbox, always built to be as light as possible, will hold up to the imperfecions of the human actuated shift sequence. Niki Lauda won his third championship over Prost because of his knowledge and skill with the gearbox. The sequential shift is a wonderous thing. There is no doubt that it is a technological wonder that belongs in the most advanced cars in the world. But in terms of on track competition I believe that it has had negative effects.

[Jersey Tom]

I think this is silly... another attempt at a crutch, just grasping at straws. No other race series I can think of needs this sort of thing.

[turbof1]

The biggest issue will be how they'll be able to reinforce this. Trying to restrict some of the radio communication, but allowing the rest, leaves the door wide open for coded talk.

Basicilly the same standard scenario as the team order debacle. You are disallowing it, but by allowing any communication to the driver you are wrecking the intention. The idea translates to a note to the burglar saying he can't break in, but includes a PS telling that the key is under the flower vase.

The only way to enforce this to outright ban any and all radio comm. Teams will have to rely then on pit boards, giving info to the drivers once a lap. Exactly what motogp is doing.

[wesley123]

It's clear I'm missing something, but how exactly would this change anything?

[SiLo]

They could simply stop any data being given to the driver about their team mate. That seems to be what the issue is mostly about.

But then I'm sure they would just provide the information on the screen on the wheel instead, so it's all pointless really.

[ian_s]

They could simply stop any data being given to the driver about their team mate. That seems to be what the issue is mostly about.

But then I'm sure they would just provide the information on the screen on the wheel instead, so it's all pointless really.

i thought they werent allowed to send 'data' back to the car, just audio?