let's just mount guns on the roll hoop while at it. and throw some spikes at the back. a jetblaster to overtake easier.proteus wrote:Dont know if anyone proposed this jet, but what about a gas container with nozzle mounted between the area of steering wheel and radio antena. Gas under high pressure controlled by the sensor which would detect if an object is flying towards the driver. when the object is detected the sensor would release the pressure to deflect the object. If the trucks and cars can be flipped by this method, why not deflecting the debris? sure, there should be a hell of a sensor there with quick reflexes but military can detect and act against shots which travel with 800+ kmh.
What does that change? The car is the sameturbof1 wrote:Second I feel it's completely wrong to shove the de Villota accident in the shoes of the FIA since it happened on a filming day and not on an official sanctioned event!
I´m not sure what safety issues are you refering to... Do LMP1 cars have safety issues?turbof1 wrote:Fact of the matter is: protecting the head of a driver in a single seater is very difficult.
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A closed cockpit on the other hand brings a lot of safety issues with it. I still think it's the best way to go, but research should be dedicated to figuring out a failsafe system to get the driver out.
The car and safety measures don't have to be the same during filming days. Basically they can do whatever they want during a filming day, except exceeding a certain amount of kilometres and have to run show tyres. All else is open. The FIA stands, excluding the exception, completely outside of this. Would you think that the fia would have allowed to have the car running near the truck? I don't think so. Would the fia have allowed the car run underneath a jumping truck? Nope. Fact of matter is: it's outside their control.Andres125sx wrote:What does that change? The car is the sameturbof1 wrote:Second I feel it's completely wrong to shove the de Villota accident in the shoes of the FIA since it happened on a filming day and not on an official sanctioned event!
I´m not sure what safety issues are you refering to... Do LMP1 cars have safety issues?turbof1 wrote:Fact of the matter is: protecting the head of a driver in a single seater is very difficult.
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A closed cockpit on the other hand brings a lot of safety issues with it. I still think it's the best way to go, but research should be dedicated to figuring out a failsafe system to get the driver out.
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Any reason this can´t be used in F1? Any reason this is safe for LMP1 but wouldn´t be for F1?
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But that is part of the over all issue everyone has isn't it?WilliamsF1 wrote:Cockpit safety LMP style can be quickly implemented by simply instituting a larger cockpit section. There is no reason to be stuck for 21 years with same size since 1994.
Larger size will not change cause any issues for anyone.
Vision in LMP car are not 50℅ of f1 on top of that LMP drivers sit on one side rather than centre.
Yes agree about this, I was refering to the car, with a closed cockpit, even if it was a filming day, she´d be alive.turbof1 wrote:The car and safety measures don't have to be the same during filming days. Basically they can do whatever they want during a filming day, except exceeding a certain amount of kilometres and have to run show tyres. All else is open. The FIA stands, excluding the exception, completely outside of this. Would you think that the fia would have allowed to have the car running near the truck? I don't think so. Would the fia have allowed the car run underneath a jumping truck? Nope. Fact of matter is: it's outside their control.
Why?turbof1 wrote:About the cockpit: the issue is that you are dealing with a single seater car with a much narrower cockpit. It's more difficult to have enough safety measures to keep the driver safe at an impact, yet also allow systems in the exact same position to allow a quick escape. for instance a driver in lmp would simply open his door when the car is upside down. In F1 that's not possible.
You are in other words comparing apples with oranges.