F1 cars are 8 seconds slower than 10 years ago.

[CBeck113]

Compare dry race times to get the real picture, since the pit stops were much longer due to refueling...just a thought...

[Pierce89]

Austria is pretty close,

1:08.759 - 2003

1:07.908 - 2014

Is that the same configuration for sure? That track has been through a lot over the years.

[WaikeCU]

Those were the era with profile tires. I don't think they had more tire grip than the slicks we have these days. So therefor I think the cars back in 2003 were more powerful than the ones these days. We had more aero in the past and more engine power imo.

[Juzh]

Those were the era with profile tires. I don't think they had more tire grip than the slicks we have these days.

They definitely had more grip. Plus, tires back then were wider, thus negating almost all loss of surface area compared to 2010+ slicks. 2006 grooved probably had something like twice the grip than current pirellis. Just watching the onboards you can see how much earlier people are on the throttle without any tc intervention.

[Tim.Wright]

2006 grooved probably had something like twice the grip than current pirellis.

I don't remember them pulling 10G under brakes in 2006...

[Juzh]

Overestimation it was a lot anyway.

[Blanchimont]

This table shows the overall lap record, the fastest time during the 2014 weekend and the differences in [s] and [%]. Australia, Malysia, China, Silverstone and Spa were wet qualifyings if i remember right.

Austral	1:23,529   1:29,375	5,846	7,00%
Malays	1:33,074   1:39,008	5,934	6,38%
Bahrain	1:30,139   1:33,185	3,046	3,38%
China	1:32,238   1:38,315	6,077	6,59%
Spain	1:19,995   1:25,232	5,237	6,55%
Monaco	1:13,556   1:15,989	2,433	3,31%
Canada	1:12,275   1:14,874	2,599	3,60%
Austria	1:07,908   1:08,759	0,851	1,25%
GreatBr	1:29,607   1:34,508	4,901	5,47%
Germany	1:13,306   1:16,540	3,234	4,41%
Hungary	1:18,773   1:22,715	3,942	5,00%
Belgium	1:44,503   1:49,189	4,686	4,48%
Italy	1:20,089   1:24,109	4,020	5,02%
Singap	1:42,841   1:45,681	2,840	2,76%
Japan	1:29,599   1:32,506	2,907	3,24%

[Gianlu27]

https://twitter.com/Gianlu_DAle/status/ ... 9837751296
F1 cars are 8 seconds slower than 10 years ago.

No, they are not. Just because yo copy from a (nice) article, it doesn't mean that you have to copy its sensationalistic headline.

Then the numbers showed (with much less than a 8 second difference in average) suffer from so many sins:
Nitpicked seasons (one can forgive that).
Nitpicked races (sensationalistic and skewed).
Australia 2014? Really? Is that fair in any way?
And then, the fastest lap in the race is the most fickle statistic one could think of. Some times drivers push, sometimes not. We have rules in 2014 that mean that they are set towards the end of the race, in a situation where many people might not be pushing anymore, on worn tires which are the hardest in the selection, and possibly in fuel saving mode. So in only few races of 2014 the fastest lap in the race is the fastest that car can do, while in 2004 it often was an in or out lap in the middle of the tactical battle where one could only pass in the pits.So, if you are then going to pick only 5, it is an easy game.

Yes, you're right. I only report the article for starting a discussion about it. Is not a my opinion

[hollus]

"F1 cars are 8 seconds slower than 10 years ago."
Those are your words. You put them here yourself, three times in a row. It doesn't matter that you copied them, now they are your words.

[Vary]

This just hurts my feelings.

2014 F1 Spanish Grand Prix
http://i.imgur.com/2QJ57Xp.png

2014 GP2 at Barcelona
http://i.imgur.com/Y5Ulfk9.png

Well, at the beginning Of the season kamui stated that they would have been faster if they have raced their gp2 car... That is actually true...

[SiLo]

Soon it will be called GP1 and Formula 2.

[strad]

I don't care how fast or slow if only we had hammer and tongs racing

[Juzh]

I don't care how fast or slow if only we had hammer and tongs racing

[Moose]

What's face palm worthy about that? Does it really matter if they do a 1:40 or a 1:38, as long as they're fighting each other like crazy?

[rohit1594]

Soon it will be called GP1 and Formula 2.

I don't think so. Current Formula 1 is not just about sheer lap times and screaming sound of the cars (louder doesn't necessarily mean better); the technology used since this year is unparalleled in any other form of fuel-racing, not to mention the relevance to road-car technology! I am pretty confident that terms like 'ERS', 'turbocharger', 'energy recovery', 'heat energy' etc. will soon be quite common across most of other motorsport categories.

In fact, we should be really proud of the bold steps Formula 1 has taken to shift to this expensive but technologically advanced solution.