Formula One's Engine Crisis

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You ignored the second point :-)
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Andres125sx wrote:
toraabe wrote:Who complained when Schumacher and Vettel won ?
The audience

https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/ ... -f1-tv.jpg
Please note this is only italian audience, so if italians interest decreased when his beloved team was so successful, imagine the rest of the world #-o
Maybe I've missed the point you were trying to make but the graph shows the opposite of what you're saying. The biggest drops are from 04-05, when the Ferrari dominance ended, 08-09, when Ferrari had a poor car, and 13-14 when Ferrari weren't winning. Viewing figures spike in 2007/08, 2010 & 2012 when Ferrari are in the title battle.

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Anyway, as the RB thread is locked, AMuS today say that Ferrari are refusing to budge from their offer of a 2015 engine, despite Bernie's attempts.

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Jonnycraig wrote:Anyway, as the RB thread is locked, AMuS today say that Ferrari are refusing to budge from their offer of a 2015 engine, despite Bernie's attempts.
Can they do that or must it be voted on like when Manor/Marussia was allowed to run older motors? I though homologated motors had to be equal, i.e. all works & customer PUs are the same spec. (Now, software and providing data to develop software is a different story!)

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alexx_88 wrote:I'll just leave this here :D

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12522/ ... -f1-attack
Another person looking into the past with rose tinted glasses.........
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dans79 wrote:You ignored the second point :-)
Nope, it´s only that I agree with that :)

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Jonnycraig wrote:
Andres125sx wrote:
toraabe wrote:Who complained when Schumacher and Vettel won ?
The audience

https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/ ... -f1-tv.jpg
Please note this is only italian audience, so if italians interest decreased when his beloved team was so successful, imagine the rest of the world #-o
Maybe I've missed the point you were trying to make but the graph shows the opposite of what you're saying. The biggest drops are from 04-05, when the Ferrari dominance ended, 08-09, when Ferrari had a poor car, and 13-14 when Ferrari weren't winning. Viewing figures spike in 2007/08, 2010 & 2012 when Ferrari are in the title battle.
How is that opposite to my point?

I never talked about biggest drop, my point is domination periods always cause a drop in audience, and posted the graph as a proof that in 00-04 domination period the audience dropped even in Italy when it was Ferrari.

Basically even tiffosi get bored watching his beloved team winning easily, so the rest of the world...



Same applies to Germany, rejecting to host the GP not even when it´s Mercedes the team to beat and Rosberg is in there.

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alexx_88 wrote:I'll just leave this here :D

http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12522/ ... -f1-attack
Next year's British GP is scheduled for July 10 - the same day as the Men's Final at Wimbledon and the final of football's Euro 2016
:shock: :shock: :shock:

That´s good planning... Imagine if the finals are England-Germany and Murray-Djokovic :mrgreen:

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Andres125sx wrote:
Next year's British GP is scheduled for July 10 - the same day as the Men's Final at Wimbledon and the final of football's Euro 2016
:shock: :shock: :shock:

That´s good planning... Imagine if the finals are England-Germany and Murray-Djokovic :mrgreen:
We had this a few years ago and the GP was moved by one week. Wouldn't surprise me if Bernie had done it on purpose for some wierd self-gratifying reason...
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I wish Red Bull and Ferrari can strike a deal where in Red Bull are allowed to develop and manufacture the Ferrari 2015 unit themselves (or Renault).

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Hmm so if Ferrari were in Mercedes potision, Eccelstone and the audience would have been happy ?
Andres125sx wrote:
toraabe wrote:Who complained when Schumacher and Vettel won ?
The audience

https://thejudge13.files.wordpress.com/ ... -f1-tv.jpg
Please note this is only italian audience, so if italians interest decreased when his beloved team was so successful, imagine the rest of the world #-o

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andres125x wrote:
I never talked about biggest drop, my point is domination periods always cause a drop in audience, and posted the graph as a proof that in 00-04 domination period the audience dropped even in Italy when it was Ferrari.

Basically even tiffosi get bored watching his beloved team winning easily, so the rest of the world...



Same applies to Germany, rejecting to host the GP not even when it´s Mercedes the team to beat and Rosberg is in there.
Except the F1 audience decreased across the world from the late 90s onwards and has never recovered. It has nothing to do with dominance and everything to do with F1 simply being past its glory days. Ignore that erroneous period and the graph shows what everyone knows. When a devoured team is winning, viewing increases, when they're losing it decreases.

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Ferrari confirm. No engines for RB.

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Jonnycraig wrote:Ferrari confirm. No engines for RB.

Source?

If true all I can say is "What goes around comes around"
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