Massa is Idiot

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Is Massa Idiot?

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Ray
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What I don't get, for the life of me, is why the pole sitter does not get the inside line. How come on tracks with a right hander for the first turn, the pole position is lined up on the outside? That makes no sense to me. I think that's idiotic!

Now, on topic. :lol: I think he was overzealous, not an idiot. For sure it was a stupid move, and he's better than that. But I wouldn't go as far as calling him an idiot. Great initiative, bad judgement. As they used to say in the Marine Corps.

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Ciro Pabón
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Well, bizadfar, we're glad you're into motorsports. I pray for you to get an F1 seat and prove us how easy is to hold Alonso, our \:D/ World Driver Champion \:D/. Must be a piece of cake, as Michael Schumacher, another impaired driver, can testify. Who is this guy? Just another bi-champion more to add to the crowd of people that has reached that status, people that are a dime a dozen.

Also, I totally agree with you that Hamilton must be easy to overtake. Of course, on every race you compete, you see a rookie on the podium on his first two races, specially in Formula One. We have no reason to wonder how he could achieve that: most people have done something similar and we yawn every time somebody else do that again. These are old news, that are interesting only to people comfortably reclined on their wheelchairs, gobbling Viagra and suffering Alzheimer.

If Felipe made mistakes or Kimi "The Ray" Räikönnen was unable to overtake Felipe, it was because the cars weren't good enough: after all, what's a Ferrari? A piece of junk supported by mediocre engineers that throw ill prepared drivers onto the track only to shame sponsors by virtue of hiring retarded mechanics, lead by managers that know nothing about racing, people without history or future. Felipe proved that during the qualy, where he only overcome the mediocre competition of a mere 21 less than competent drivers on little "machines who could".

We don't have to recognize any merit on drivers like Alonso or Hamilton. Surely the current driver rooster is one we're accostumed to see every year. I wonder how Hamilton could stun the F1 World if he wasn't preceded by morons like Alonso, Kimi or Massa, guys you can easily see on any track... and that can be easily tricked by people like us. Of course, all of them were as good as Hamilton from day one, or, better yet, they could have been as good, if they had been provided with the cheap, made-in-a-hurry cars that imprudent people trusted to Hamilton.

Thank heaven no sarcasm is allowed in this forum. Someone could try to belittle the drivers that risk their lifes for our entertainement (if you can call that sleepy parade entertaining) on every race. If I see some sarcastic people around here I will denounce them to the forum moderator.
Ciro

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Ted68
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C'mon, Ciro, don't sugar coat it, let us know what you really think. :lol: :wink:

allan
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HEY HEY!!!! DON"T CALL HIM AN IDIOT!!!! THAT IS SO UNFAIR!!!!



to idiots off course :wink:

mx_tifoso
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Everything on this thread is irrelevent and stupid, starting with the thread name, it should say "Massa is an Idiot" :roll:

And as far as i know Massa is human, so he is still capable of making errors, I'm sure many of you would have made similar mistakes, if not worse, if you where in his place, or in this case, drivers seat

It's only the second race of the season so nothing is as clear as it seems, we all know how it goes, a win for one team, another win for another, etc.
Things change extremely rapidly and nothing is ever guaranteed, not even for the leading team


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West
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He's not an idiot. I mean he got an invite to drive for Ferrari F1. He was just bringing back memories of his Sauber days.

He's not the kind of driver that drives 80mph the wrong way on the highway, or plows through a marketplace at the same speed. In case you didn't know, old people in the US love doing that for some reason.
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ds.raikkonen
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i would nt call massa an idiot...but what he did wuz somethng that rookies do it wuz unforgivable..blew a ferrari win...that right hander is very tricky...even while playing F1 on my comp, i lost rear grip completely many times...although its good for o.t.,it shud be handled very carefully...
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary...that’s what gets you.” - JC

bizadfar
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Ciro Pabón wrote: Also, I totally agree with you that Hamilton must be easy to overtake. Of course, on every race you compete, you see a rookie on the podium on his first two races, specially in Formula One. We have no reason to wonder how he could achieve that: most people have done something similar and we yawn every time somebody else do that again. These are old news, that are interesting only to people comfortably reclined on their wheelchairs, gobbling Viagra and suffering Alzheimer.
A nice twist of words in the first sentence! You should become a lawyer.
Now where did I say that? I implied he is what F1 NEEDS not the other drivers who have this attitude "Oh I'm slower, I"ll do a pathetic effort at blocking/defending."
Ciro Pabón wrote:If Felipe made mistakes or Kimi "The Ray" Räikönnen was unable to overtake Felipe, it was because the cars weren't good enough: after all, what's a Ferrari? A piece of junk supported by mediocre engineers that throw ill prepared drivers onto the track only to shame sponsors by virtue of hiring retarded mechanics, lead by managers that know nothing about racing, people without history or future. Felipe proved that during the qualy, where he only overcome the mediocre competition of a mere 21 less than competent drivers on little "machines who could".
Felipe had a faster car than Raikkonen, that was obvious. He had probably the fastest car even in race condition but failed to MAKE it the fastest car.
From the additional words I can see your the type of supporter/fan and oblivious to everything else. Be that way, Mr Blind.
Ciro Pabón wrote:Thank heaven no sarcasm is allowed in this forum. Someone could try to belittle the drivers that risk their lifes for our entertainement (if you can call that sleepy parade entertaining) on every race. If I see some sarcastic people around here I will denounce them to the forum moderator.
Eat your words then.

ds.raikkonen wrote:i would nt call massa an idiot...but what he did wuz somethng that rookies do it wuz unforgivable..blew a ferrari win...that right hander is very tricky...even while playing F1 on my comp, i lost rear grip completely many times...although its good for o.t.,it shud be handled very carefully...
Get real mate. Does the simulation model the track grip multiplier factor off the race line? Does it properly simulate the elevation function of the curve itself? The bumps? The bumps are just polygons. Simulation will always have flaws. Ie Don't really bother comparing to real, chances are it is far from it.
Ray wrote:What I don't get, for the life of me, is why the pole sitter does not get the inside line. How come on tracks with a right hander for the first turn, the pole position is lined up on the outside? That makes no sense to me. I think that's idiotic!

Now, on topic. :lol: I think he was overzealous, not an idiot. For sure it was a stupid move, and he's better than that. But I wouldn't go as far as calling him an idiot. Great initiative, bad judgement. As they used to say in the Marine Corps.
Massa should've done that switched to the inside asap. Why he didn't? Not confident or too confident? Or a moron? He braked early.. maybe trying to get a good speed into turn 2/3. But at the same time he let Hamilton through on the outside of 2.... Did he not learn from Schumacher in Hungary as a prime example? Don't ever give way. Confidence imbalance.

DaveKillens
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Bizadfar, I think you miss the point that Ciro's post was mainly sarcasm.
Anyways, Massa just made a mistake, pure and simple, under the pressure of trying to pass Hamilton. These guys get paid not to make mistakes, but sometimes cow crap happens.

bizadfar
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DaveKillens wrote:Bizadfar, I think you miss the point that Ciro's post was mainly sarcasm.
Anyways, Massa just made a mistake, pure and simple, under the pressure of trying to pass Hamilton. These guys get paid not to make mistakes, but sometimes cow crap happens.
Yes crap happens. But he did not recover from it. He either damaged the diffuser? Or just ran out of confidence to push in order not to make another mistake. Alongside Schumacher and with his rapid improvement over 2006, I thought he'd learn that he"ll go even faster in the same place where his mistake was made.

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ds.raikkonen
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yeah ... games are not even near the real thing...but they do give you a taste of it....after the easier 1st sector, the next2 sectors are a big challenge in Malaysia...and getting on the back straight with decent speed after the tight right hander is really tricky...highly technical circuit...DEMANDS balance
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary...that’s what gets you.” - JC

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Ray
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ds.raikkonen wrote:yeah ... games are not even near the real thing...but they do give you a taste of it....after the easier 1st sector, the next2 sectors are a big challenge in Malaysia...and getting on the back straight with decent speed after the tight right hander is really tricky...highly technical circuit...DEMANDS balance
So. You play a few video games, and you become an expert driver. Damn. I shoulda started playing them a LONG time ago. Hell, I'd be world champ right now.

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ds.raikkonen
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yeah...yu shud ve...maybe you cud ve replaced schumi...sicko
“Speed has never killed anyone. Suddenly becoming stationary...that’s what gets you.” - JC

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ketanpaul
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Pressure is on for Massa, and he needs to step up his game. He has the speed but crumbles on pressure, which is something he needs to work on.
But, definetly not an idiot :lol: :lol:

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Ciro Pabón
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DaveKillens wrote:Bizadfar, I think you miss the point that Ciro's post was mainly sarcasm.
Mainly? :lol:
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