Monza Testing

[Steven]

Ugly Toyota airbox! Makes me remember this!

Actually, it has been there for several races already: http://www.f1technical.net/development/91

As for the McLaren rear wing.. if I recall correctly they used a single plate rear wing last year too

[bar555]

Tomba wrote:
As for the McLaren rear wing.. if I recall correctly they used a single plate rear wing last year too

Mc Laren used a rear wing with single flap in Monza 2006

[modbaraban]

I think only Mclaren and BMW have opted to remove those side winglets. Ferrari, on the other hand, went for one profile instead of the "regular" two.

I didn't get it. Illustrate please.

As for the McLaren rear wing.. if I recall correctly they used a single plate rear wing last year too

I think Renault had it in 2004 already.

PS: 666th post

[bar555]

Renault R24 in 2004 first introduced the engine cover "hump"

[Belatti]

Don´t you guys think that all F1 teams are using too much front wing compared to other years Monza setups?
Could someone post some pic from 2000-2005 front wings?

Thanks in advance

[modbaraban]

Don´t you guys think that all F1 teams are using too much front wing compared to other years Monza setups?
Could someone post some pic from 2000-2005 front wings?

Looking at R27 (check the topic by bar555) or F2007 noses it seems the new front Bridgestones need more load comparing to the 2006. The higher DF front wings may be the aero solution for that.

just an observation.

[FLC]

I was talking about these:


BMW obviously took them off, as you can see in the first pictures I posted, and this is what's left of them on the Mclaren:

[modbaraban]

Those are usally referred as T-wings. Din't notice that the 1st time I looked at those pics. Thanx.

[mx_tifoso]

Regarding the McLaren pic above;

Formula1.com

In contrast to its Ferrari rival, which sports multiple cooling gills, the McLaren features totally enclosed sidepods, despite the high Turkish temperatures

Mclaren have less cooling needs for their engine than Ferrari it seems. The F2007 is full of gills and has larger "t-wings" as to where the MP4-22 has no gills and significantly smaller "t-wings.

The MP4-22's radiator has a 68 degree incline, does anyone know how many degrees of incline the F2007 features

F2007 Turkey GP Sat Practise

MP4-22 Monza Test Day 1

[bar555]

Belatti wrote:
Don´t you guys think that all F1 teams are using too much front wing compared to other years Monza setups?
Could someone post some pic from 2000-2005 front wings?

Mc Laren Monza front wings from 2000 to 2006




2000 to 2003 front wing with small parallel to the ground flap and double profile .
2004 and 2005 front wing had a spoon centre shape and in 2006 had a triple profile .

[FLC]

Second day, Renault also goes without the "T-wings". I must say that the cars look better without them.



Toro Rosso got the new front wing from Red Bull:

[kimi_khodr_raikkonen]

Video From Monza testing -28

http://www.mediafire.com/?5ybvgbtmxgz

[Evenstar]

[bizadfar]

Don´t you guys think that all F1 teams are using too much front wing compared to other years Monza setups?
Could someone post some pic from 2000-2005 front wings?

Thanks in advance

As Modbaraban said, these tyres need much more vertical load.

[allan]

Belatti wrote:
Don´t you guys think that all F1 teams are using too much front wing compared to other years Monza setups?
Could someone post some pic from 2000-2005 front wings?

U r right.. But remember that the regulations have changed, and back in 2000-2004 the front wing was much lower to the ground than now (5 cm if im not mistaken).

[modbaraban]

I'm not sure if someone poinetd this out.



Despite using most of the latest aero improvements of their seniour team STR stick to the older type chimneys while RBR has fins+T-wings combo similar to F2006-7 and grills since Spanish GP.

But on this pick we can see the blocked chimney