Truilli out at Toyota? Williams look to end Toyota deal?

[The FOZ]

Nobody is belittling you, calm down... just pointing something very obvious out that you failed to mention... If they are going to be slow they might as well do it with a Japanese driver and have him bring in money rather than pay Truilli a whole heap. Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Also I think you fail to recognize how bad of luck Kazoo has had this year, he has speed, he just needs to get his racecraft together(Isnt that what everyone said about Sato), I personally think he has some talent, the question is if any team is patient enough to hone it.

ISLAM,

Read paragraph 5 and 6 of my first statement.

My statement is, the team needs both cost cutting AND performance gains, because even a cheap team is worthless if it sucks. You can't make a business model out of losing, unless you're the Toronto Maple Leafs. Giblet and a few others might know what I'm talking about there.

You are saying, if they're going to be slow, might as well do it on the cheap.

Nothing in your first reply to me has anything to do with your most recent "clarification".

Kazoo has had a lousy season...and a worse last season. His rate of improvement has been worse than Piquet, Jr.

F1 is a steep, steep learning curve, and getting over the initial hump does not guarantee any sort of actual success. With 2 more seasons, I can only foresee mediocrity from him.

[ISLAMATRON]

I disagree, I happen to think KAzoo has shown better than NP Jr, but hey thats just me.

Slow not only on the cheap but with a Japanese driver who can speak the language... marketing is a big deal in F1 is all I'm saying.

[roost89]

Kazoo is as fast as Nico,just not as consistent. He also has bad luck that's stopping him from getting higher in the points.

That's what the BBC commentators say.

If Kazoo was to go, I'd expect him to go to Toyota. If Williams get rid of the Toyota engine, they've no need for a Toyota (young driver program) driver. None of the new teams can have a Toyota engine so he's got few other areas to go.

[xpensive]

There will be no Toyota engines in F1 next year. Not whatsoever.

[Scotracer]

There will be no Toyota engines in F1 next year. Not whatsoever.

Good because they sound like crap. More Mercedes and Ferrari please

[WhiteBlue]

There will be no Toyota engines in F1 next year. Not whatsoever.

Strange confidence. Toyoda seems to be a racer and why would Toyota sighn a concord to pull out three months later?

[ISLAMATRON]

Funding for 2010 Toyota F1 not yet confirmed

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/77918

[The FOZ]

Trulli wants a 2-year contract, Toyota is only willing to give him a 1-year.

Based on that, I don't think Toyota's position is shaky, but it shows some uncertainty on their part.

[pjobmathew]

Tayota may leave at the end of the season , so many years and no result . Pre season they were looking good but they seem to have lost it .
Kaz has had a lot of bad luck , but with a car like that he should have scored one point at least.Williams are struggling for their existence . This season has to be good . They could have finished 3rd or 4th if there was some good contribution from Kaz .

Well i wanna see Kubica at williams . Well a guy can dream right ?????

Who are they going to if not Tayota ????

Any chance of BMW continuing to supply engines in 2010 ?????

Kubica Kubica ..........

[Saribro]

Any chance of BMW continuing to supply engines in 2010?

No, they already said they wouldn't.

[pjobmathew]

Yes my friend , i've read about Klaous Draoegor (i don't know how its spelt) saying that.But i've read somewhere on the net that they might.Any one's got any info regarding this ??????

[axle]

I think Trulli's had his time at Toyota and that he no longer serves a purpose there. He doesn't fit the corporate image being Italian and he's not young enough to justify sticking with for 2 more mediocre seasons. I'd be surprised that all the Italian drivers with SuperLicenses haven't faxed their C.V's to Ferrari yet!

As for Kazuki, yes he's failed to deliver points - he should really have at least 5 to his name. I've heard that the one thing in his favour is that he's very good technically, for optomising the setup. So maybe in some way he's been responsible for some of those points that Nico has scored...

I personally am dreaming of a NicoR+NicoH driver lineup for Williams next year but I'd happily take a Kubica+NicoH pairing. As for engine supply, Renault or Ferrari seem to be the only options...and I'm not sure they are any better than what they have. The Ferrari runs hot, and the Renault is weak...however at least both have worked with KERS and this is Williams' issue - the Toyota powerunit has not been developed for a KERS implimentation properly. Williams with a Ferrari engine would be awsome IMO, but wrong at the same time. So I can only think that it's the Renault engine they are looking at as Mercedes have too many irons in the fire already and don't give out free lunches and Renault maybe about to lose RedBull...

...Unless and this is highly speculative...Williams and BMW strike a deal regards to Robert or Nick or Christian about a driver placement being given in return for engines...

[bjpower]

correct me if i am wrong but didn't Toyota say that if the F1 team couldn't fight for the WC they would pull the plug 2 years ago?

[Giblet]

I think it feels like 2 years ago, but was said at the end of last season.

[StrFerrari4Ever]

They've got the most money and yet they still can't find success surely the best brains and talent in the buisness would like to achieve success at the biggest car manufacturers F1 programme but the reality is different.

I mean how long have they been in F1 8 Years? and no win thats disgraceful and unjustifiable for a team with that much money behind it. Toro Rosso 3 years in F1 1 Win Toyota 8 Years in F1 no wins They better hope their board says 2010 last chance and actually mean it and Trulli i love the guy his fast but in the race is nowhere I think his past his best they should probably get Kaz in he could feel more comfortable at a team from his home country and him & Glock could get on well which would help with team chemistry and improve their success.