2010 Winter Testing

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Schumacher just did a 1:08.452? Empty tank, I presume.

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monkeyboy1976 wrote:Schumi gets the German headlines tomorrow then.
Don't remind me of this :lol:
But I have to say the W01 with yellow camera and red helmet looks pretty cool. Also the Renault brings some color to F1. All in all it was cool to see the new cars running for the first time in '10.
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Pos Driver Team Time Laps
1. Massa Ferrari (B) 1:12.574 102
2. de la Rosa BMW Sauber-Ferrari (B) 1:12.784 74
3. M.Schumacher Mercedes GP (B) 1:12.947 40
4. Rosberg Mercedes GP (B) 1:13.543 39
5. Paffett McLaren-Mercedes (B) 1:13.846 86
6. Barrichello Williams-Cosworth (B) 1:14.449 75
7. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari (B) 1:14.762 18
8. Kubica Renault (B) 1:15.000 69

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tarzoon wrote:final results

P Pilotes Equipes Temps Ecarts Trs
1 F.Massa Ferrari 1:12.650 +-.--- 86
2 P.De la Rosa Sauber 1:12.784 +-.--- 62
3 M.Schumacher Merc 1:13.273 +-.--- 23
4 N.Rosberg Merc 1:13.543 +-.--- 39
5 G.Paffett McLaren 1:13.846 +-.--- 77
6 R.Barrichello Will 1.14.449 +-.--- 75
7 R.Kubica Renault 1:15.000 +-.--- 69
8 S.Buemi T Rosso 1:16.333 +-.--- 10
Not final times.

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Why not final?
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Circuit status: Air temperature: 12 ° C
Track temperature: 22 ° C
Test times Updated: 17:14


Felipe Massa (Ferrari): 1:12.574 (102 vueltas)
De la Rosa (BMW Sauber): 1:12.784 (74 vueltas)
Schumacher (Mercedes GP): 1:12.947 (40 vueltas)
Rosberg (Mercedes GP): 1:13.543 (39 vueltas)
Paffett (McLaren): 1:13.846 (86 vueltas)
Barrichello (Williams): 1:14.449 (75 vueltas)
Buemi (Toro Rosso): 1:14.762 (18 vueltas)
Kubica (Renault): 1:15.00 (69 vueltas)



The testing day ended with a track temperatur of 22°C compared to 30°C during the noon session. So Schumacher put half a second on Rosberg in worse conditions. He also had to cope with a red flag. Well done Michael!!

I think the absolute times were difficult to compare between teams. Although Massa ran the fastest lap this does not mean that Ferrari will be out of trouble. Sauber were quite high up on the grid although they are not expected to make it to the top teams this year. They urgently need sponsorship though and may have had less fuel on board than other teams.
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Moanlower wrote:With so little time and testmiles during the pre-season tests I wonder how presentative the times will be ? Would teams spend any time sandbagging.
And if they do, would it be beneficial?

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Unofficial Thursday times from Barcelona (March 2009: 4th day)

1. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn BGP 001, 1:18.926
2. Nico Rosberg, Williams FW31, 1:19.774
3. Timo Glock, Toyota TF109, 1:20.091
4. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull RB5, 1:20.576
5. Fernando Alonso, Renault R29, 1:20.664
6. Felipe Massa, Ferrari F60, 1:20.677
7. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber F1.09, 1:20.740
8. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren MP4-24, 1:20.869
9. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso STR4, 1:21.013
10. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India VJM02, 1:21.045
11. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso STR4, 1:21.629

It seems that by March, the grid was starting to work itself out. Not so much in the early tests though. The thing is, there is such a wide range of fuel loads the cars could (and should) be running on that I would say it will be very hard to get a like to like comparison in testing this year.
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horse wrote:Unofficial Thursday times from Barcelona (March 2009: 4th day)

1. Rubens Barrichello, Brawn BGP 001, 1:18.926
2. Nico Rosberg, Williams FW31, 1:19.774
3. Timo Glock, Toyota TF109, 1:20.091
4. Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull RB5, 1:20.576
5. Fernando Alonso, Renault R29, 1:20.664
6. Felipe Massa, Ferrari F60, 1:20.677
7. Robert Kubica, BMW Sauber F1.09, 1:20.740
8. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren MP4-24, 1:20.869
9. Sebastien Buemi, Toro Rosso STR4, 1:21.013
10. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India VJM02, 1:21.045
11. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso STR4, 1:21.629

It seems that by March, the grid was starting to work itself out. Not so much in the early tests though. The thing is, there is such a wide range of fuel loads the cars could (and should) be running on that I would say it will be very hard to get a like to like comparison in testing this year.
Why do we need Catalunya lap times? I thought this was Valencia.

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Avto wrote:Why do we need Catalunya lap times? I thought this was Valencia.
I was just trying to demonstrate that towards the end of last year's winter testing the times were becoming representative. It's not for comparison with this weeks tests.
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horse wrote:
Avto wrote:Why do we need Catalunya lap times? I thought this was Valencia.
I was just trying to demonstrate that towards the end of last year's winter testing the times were becoming representative. It's not for comparison with this weeks tests.
Ah, okay my bad. I see what you mean with a few exceptions Catalunya tests were indeed representative of season to come.

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Very early days, but so far it looks like Williams and especially Renault (what a surprise :roll: ) could be a bit off the pace. McLaren will probably be considerably faster once Lewis or Jenson get in the car, but 1.3 seconds is still a rather big gap. Mercedes not bad (impressive comeback for Michael), but of course nowhere near as impressive as they (Brawn) were looking in last year's pre-season testing. Ferrari and Sauber (!) are looking good so far. I wish Red Bull were in Valencia too...

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Roland Ehnström wrote:Very early days, but so far it looks like Williams and especially Renault (what a surprise :roll: ) could be a bit off the pace. McLaren will probably be considerably faster once Lewis or Jenson get in the car, but 1.3 seconds is still a rather big gap. Mercedes not bad (impressive comeback for Michael), but of course nowhere near as impressive as they (Brawn) were looking in last year's pre-season testing. Ferrari and Sauber (!) are looking good so far. I wish Red Bull were in Valencia too...
Today was little more than a shake down, systems test, and baseline setup for subsequent days. Wouldn't read too much into it just yet. Over the next couple of days I'm sure that trends will emerge, but it won't be until later tests that we will begin to get any real feel for the pecking order - more through those that are struggling than knowing the exact pecking order at the front.

Roll on Bahrain!

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myurr wrote:
Roland Ehnström wrote:Very early days, but so far it looks like Williams and especially Renault (what a surprise :roll: ) could be a bit off the pace. McLaren will probably be considerably faster once Lewis or Jenson get in the car, but 1.3 seconds is still a rather big gap. Mercedes not bad (impressive comeback for Michael), but of course nowhere near as impressive as they (Brawn) were looking in last year's pre-season testing. Ferrari and Sauber (!) are looking good so far. I wish Red Bull were in Valencia too...
Today was little more than a shake down, systems test, and baseline setup for subsequent days. Wouldn't read too much into it just yet. Over the next couple of days I'm sure that trends will emerge, but it won't be until later tests that we will begin to get any real feel for the pecking order - more through those that are struggling than knowing the exact pecking order at the front.

Roll on Bahrain!
This is very true.
However with the new fuel regs. at some point teams are going to have to do something resembling a race simulation. Speed + duration of run should be very telling!
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Too early to judge performance but the cars look greeeeaaaaaat =D> ...

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