Is Vettel overrated? What do you think

[Mysticf1]

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[Raptor22]

So much for the Vettel is a nice humble kid, wont hurt a fly, wont tell a lie.
Webber is owning his ass now, and he can't take the pressure.
I think he is overrated in terms of personality, and race craft. But i still regard him highly in terms of speed.
He is clearly less mature than any of the young drivers after today. Pissed me off when i saw him doing this wacko finger thing after he came out of the car in the gravel trap.
As if he was saying Webber is crazy.

i don;t buy your logic. Vettel was clearly annoyed. he made a good move on webber who then forced him left (one wheel over the white line.
Webber is then beat but does not give Vettel room approaching the racing line.

Webber then drops back and vettel sees this as Webber giving him the room required and moves left. But Webber is not giving him room he is just beaten but tries one last tactic, pinch vettel into the braking zone and hopefully he runs wide.

This backfired and both ended up lossing. I thought vettel handled it well. Senna would have called webber and Fu**ing piece of Sh*t and would have proceeded to wage a persoanl war on track for the next few seasons.

I hope Vettel does throw down the gaunlet and drop the PR bs attitude.

webber was beat, he should have given his team mate room. He did'nt.

I lay the blame squarely at Webber's feet. I would fire him.

[ringo]

have you watched the replay?
Webber did not move. at all.

Vettel was under pressure from hamilton and wanted out. He was supposed to pass webber but not at that time. He was running scared from Hamilton and did not have the patience to hold out a little longer. This pressure may have contributed to his nervous overtake.

No overtaking skills vettel has. Withstand pressure has he not the ability

[andrew]

Webber didn't move? I'm pretty sure that I saw the steering wheel dip to the left slightly. It was Vettel's corner and it was Webbers fault that Red Bull lost a guaranteed 1-2 finish.

[ringo]

Webber didn't move? I'm pretty sure that I saw the steering wheel dip to the left slightly. It was Vettel's corner and it was Webbers fault that Red Bull lost a guaranteed 1-2 finish.

You think you saw a slight movement then you have to show the example then.
All i know is, i saw Vettel's car slam to the right as clear as day.

[Mysticf1]

Fact is Vettel moved over into Webber, whether Webber should have been there or not is mute, there is a clear and definite move of Vettels wheel to the right on the onboard...he screwed up!

[mkay]

Webber didn't move? I'm pretty sure that I saw the steering wheel dip to the left slightly. It was Vettel's corner and it was Webbers fault that Red Bull lost a guaranteed 1-2 finish.

LOL. Webber wasn't obliged to give way...

[010010011010]

big storm coming about reports from press that team owners want vettel to win and are starting to nobble webber because he has been too successful recently

Then why was it mark that got the updates for quali not vettle?

[andrew]

Seems strange that the white line on the lfet was getting closer to Webber. Darn moving tracks!

[Mysticf1]

clutching at straws arn't u? If that line is ever so slightly getting closer to Webbers wheel, how about the line quite NOTICABLY getting further away from Vettel's?

[andrew]

No straws being clutched here. Even Horner states that Webber did not give Vettel enough room.

[Mysticf1]

If Vettel had not turned to the right would he have had room?

[andrew]

Vettel didn't turn to the right enough to casue a crash. The lead was lost and Webber should have conceded.

[axle]

Vettel didn't turn to the right enough to casue a crash. The lead was lost and Webber should have conceded.

LOL you can't race much...you give him a car's width that's all...less if it's not a team mate!

Coulthard said Webbers' mistake was not slamming the door in his face before he got alongside!

Vettel tried to shove Webber over for a better corner entrance...he failed...he didn't give Webber time to react.

Webber was keeping him over to hopefully run round the outside and get Vettel back...

Vettel was too desperate to make it stick there and then.

[marcush.]

they could only beat themselves...in the first races now come Macs is putting some decent pressure on them and they crumble ...its easy to win when you got a 1 second per lap advantage but it takes some cool to win when two opponents are banging at your door for the whole race..
is Vettel overrated?