bhallg2k wrote:That's when I'll have something more complimentary to say than, "They're great drivers."
Why is that not enough? Why is it so important to immediately hand drivers an exalted status. Relax. Enjoy the show. Let it all unfold.
I look forward to the day you will truly say "they're great drivers". As it stands though, it is always and constantly "they're great drivers BUT". There always has to be a but, you can't just relax and enjoy the show of these great drivers. Always the but. Always the diminishing addendum. Just, for once, leave it at "they're great drivers". I truly pray you are fair enough to explain this
, as I like to understand how people think, and you really have me puzzled on this one (some more than others).
SeijaKessen wrote:The ability to drive dog cars/cars not setup well to finishes they should not be in
"Not setup well"? Would you please elaborate on that, and with examples please?
SeijaKessen wrote:Both Vettel and Hamilton cry when things do not go their way...
How is Vettel/Hamilton expressing their dissatisfaction with a car any different than any of your greats expressing their dissatisfaction? Again, please with examples, because I am unaware of the difference.
SeijaKessen wrote:Which is also indicative of those who have been given everything in life, so they are not quite accustomed of how to deal with adversity when it comes along. Instead they sulk in the corner like a spoiled brat when things don't go their way. Would you like to know what the huge difference was between those two and many other drivers from the past? A lot of the greats had to claw their way to the top. Nothing came easy for them, and to be quite honest, that is what helped to define them as great drivers; adversity.
The only odd one out there is Hamilton, who started in a McLaren, but in starting racing was no more fortunate than Senna. Please help me find the difference:
- Ayrton Senna came from a wealthy family, debuted in a midfield Toleman, before moving to a sub-top Lotus and top McLaren.
- Fernando Alonso came from a poor family yet earned his way into karting with sponsorships, debuted in a back-of-the-field Minardi, before moving to sub-top team Renault, which turned into a top team.
- Sebastian Vettel came from a somewhat middle class family, debuted his career in a back-of-the-mid-field-TR2 before the midfield TR3, and then moved to sub-top to become top Red Bull team.
SeijaKessen wrote:The ability to pull it together when things are not all roses, is what marks a true champion.
Were things all roses when Vettel was 25 points behind Alonso, with 3 races to go, after yet another technical faillure in 2010?
SeijaKessen wrote:Anyone can be gracious in victory, being gracious in defeat is another matter.
Do you really consider Senna (crashing into people before Schumi made it fashionable | physically assaulting Irvine because he was 'just a backmarker' that wouldn't get out of his way) and Alonso (braketesting another driver because he felt he was held up in Free Practice | uprooting the entire team and sabotaging a team mate's qualifying because you're not being given number one status | his behavior against Petrov who did nothing wrong in any way) examples of "being gracious in defeat"? What have I missed Vettel and Hamilton doing that was less gracious?
Always open to learn new things and gain new insights.
Defender against the double standards, it's just bad form.
Don not tell lies, you'll get me upset.