COTA Austin - construction and infrastructure

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What do you think of the prospect of a USGP 2012 at Austin Texas

Good thinking. Place has good infra structure and nice climate in winter.
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47%
Not good as it has no motor sport tradition in the US.
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9%
I will wait to see how it will shape up.
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36%
I don't care.
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9%
 
Total votes : 268

Post Fri Jul 06, 2012 11:09 pm

It's only because of huge runoff areas that don't punish bad driving that we have incidents like the much discussed Maldanado vs Hamilton incident.
Once again I call for kerbs that punish driving off track or using them,,the kerbs.
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 1:29 am

strad wrote:It's only because of huge runoff areas that don't punish bad driving that we have incidents like the much discussed Maldanado vs Hamilton incident.
Once again I call for kerbs that punish driving off track or using them,,the kerbs.


Nah. Just put some damn grass there.
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:24 am

thearmofbarlow wrote:
strad wrote:It's only because of huge runoff areas that don't punish bad driving that we have incidents like the much discussed Maldanado vs Hamilton incident.
Once again I call for kerbs that punish driving off track or using them,,the kerbs.


Nah. Just put some damn grass there.

What ever happened to trees and telephone-posts, how about that Cota-wall, looks deterrent enough to me?

Seriously, those run-off areas are ridiculous, is this racing or what?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:47 am

Perhaps cars that venture off-track should be greeted by the outstretched hands of the Lord? This is Texas, after all.

Are the run-off areas being built going to be Abu Dhabi/Paul Ricard style?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:51 am

I agree, but there weren't any trees or telephone poles around there since it wasn't a forest or even developed.

But this is what is has come to, since the FIA and the FOM wants as many cars as possible to finish since it means more coverage for the sponsors. But I suppose that the extremely large run off areas might be the only real "flaws" of this circuit?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:09 am

When I was young and handsome, which admittedly is a few years ago, there was something called Armcos?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:14 am

I don't like the super slow section within the yellow square, and for me it would have been great if they made it possible to leave it out and configure it so that it's a higher speed through the entire sector leading into the main straight.

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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:27 am

Agreed, while they should have banked the hairpin as well if you ask me?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 8:52 am

xpensive wrote:Agreed, while they should have banked the hairpin as well if you ask me?


What will that do? Hairpin will still be a hairpin however you sugarcoat it.

Looks like the Austin officials are witnessing one chaotic GP weekend at Silverstone. Guess this could be what could happen in November.
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 10:58 am

It's astonishing how as time goes on the whining goes from one thing to another. "The track won't be done!" Track will be done. "The layout is terrible!" Layout will be awesome. "Tickets are too expensive!" Tickets are roughly priced the same as any other GP in a first world nation.

And now the whining is about how the track isn't dangerous enough.

Grasping at straws much?
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Post Sat Jul 07, 2012 11:15 pm

xpensive wrote:When I was young and handsome, which admittedly is a few years ago, there was something called Armcos?

I was young & handsome once.

Now I'm just handsome.

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Post Sun Jul 08, 2012 12:02 am

This is one of those circuits that probably doesn't need a DRS zone. Managing the Pirellis should be enough to mix things up. Wonder if this circuit will see a soft/medium or a medium/hard combination? Surely we won't see the supersofts on this one.
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Post Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:42 am

bhallg2k wrote:Perhaps cars that venture off-track should be greeted by the outstretched hands of the Lord? This is Texas, after all.

Are the run-off areas being built going to be Abu Dhabi/Paul Ricard style?

You referring to the stripes in the runoff at those two tracks?
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Post Sun Jul 08, 2012 5:47 am

Yeah. Ciro said, way back when, that those stripes are abrasive to tires as a way of both slowing down disabled cars and discouraging off-track excursions by capable ones.
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Post Sun Jul 08, 2012 6:49 am

bhallg2k wrote:Yeah. Ciro said, way back when, that those stripes are abrasive to tires as a way of both slowing down disabled cars and discouraging off-track excursions by capable ones.


Very high grip patches. The blue basically just give you more braking power and slowing ability. The red... well from what I understand they scrape off so much tire that if you hit it you're heading straight to the pit.
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