autogyro wrote:I do not see how an official number one and number two driver can be established at red bull.
Neither driver is displaying what is needed on or off track for number one status.
In fact both are responsible for losing the team valuable points.
Without the genius of Newey, the team would be well down the standings.
Team management needs to be improved and I do hope that Mark is not listening to that criminal Briatore, that would seal his fate and that of the team.
Horner is the one who needs to change his attitude. I do think he is good at his job in regard to handling the media and other outside forces. It is the way he appears to be dealing with the internal matters that need more focus.
He and the drivers should fully confront all the negative issues and deal with them. This should be Horners job and nobody elses.
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:Its a mess because things have happened this year that no one expected.
Principally amongst this is Mark Webber beating Vettel. Challenge fair enough, but beat? No one had that down at Red Bull methinks.
Now that we are in this situation, Red Bull are issuing PR statments faster than a contraception clinic does condoms in Essex.
The more they issue, the greater the portrayal of desperation.
Brilliant car, a great aerodynamicist, 2 quick drivers and a management that really are being found at in this sport.
Mysticf1 wrote:no doubt the latest piece of information to come from "a redbull senior engineer" most likely originated from Vettels side of the garage. A cheeky attempt to destabilize Webber for this weekends gp.
The team is a mess!!
WilliamsF1 wrote:Pls do not speculate on imaginary divisions in RBR team.... no management will put up with it however gullible they may be.
myurr wrote:Then why are Red Bull's management still briefing against one of their drivers even after the 'clear the air' talks
WhiteBlue wrote:myurr wrote:Then why are Red Bull's management still briefing against one of their drivers even after the 'clear the air' talks
Peddling your opinion again? What is new about it?
Dr Marko wrote:Mark is having a great season, and has also improved big time, but he should not forget that he owes much of this to the team. Where was he two years ago?
Then he could not even dream of grand prix victories. Today, we have given him a car that he can win on his own.
WhiteBlue wrote:Red Bull are giving both drivers equal preference for a WDC and the man who ownes the team has pledged that to the world. Naturally some poor souls will always only listen to sources which confirm their own preconceptions. Nothing wrong with it. It's the way of the world. Smart people will see through it.
WhiteBlue wrote:Red Bull are not briefing against one of their drivers.
WhiteBlue wrote:One of their drivers is a bit paranoid or thought that manipulating the public into thinking there was favoritism would give him the edge. It turned out he was briefly successful because the world is full of fools. It will not happen another time IMO. So it is high time that we return to business as usual regarding Red Bull. Let them do their job and if you feel you need to judge them listen at least to both sides of the debate.
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