MuseF1 wrote:Whitmarsh has supported Hamilton, just look at the last two races, Whitmarsh hasnt been on his back.internetf1fan wrote:
Ron isn't there in McLaren anymore. Whitmarsh doesn't treat Hamilton like a person. He treats him like a machine. Hamilton is a lot like Alonso, he needs emotional support from the team. At the moment he's not really getting that.
Now, telling your driver to move over for the other, thats not treating the driver like a person.
So you obviously believe that Button is not treated like a person, nor even Heiki , last year?And yet they decided to put Hamilton into a situation where he had to take a risk on track to close the point gap...
They didnt put him there, thats just how it was. the McLarens werent fast enough today, they dropped off the pace, hence why they had to pit. if the tyres held up for another 5 laps or so, hamilton would be ahead of Webber after the stop
Under the first one? Looking at Buttons pace towards the end of the race, with fresher tyres he could only just match Webber. I can't really see any opportunity to do anything different, other than not having a collision.raymondu999 wrote:Around 28 secs I believe. In that sense, perhaps maybe McLaren's only real chance was to pit under the SC?
In those 30 seconds though, he progressed from the beginning of the main straight to the end of it, so that number doesn't mean a lot on it's own. We're better off comparing pit lap times against regular laps.Carmack wrote:If I saw correctly, Hamilton's pit stop lasted a few tenths over 30 seconds, and the lead was never over 25 seconds, so if you do the math there is no way he would stay in front. And there is also a tight and slow entry and exit of the pits...
No Ferrari would definately not want him. Especially now with all the spanish supporters that came from Renault with Alonso's move to Ferrari.n smikle wrote:Frank Williams, Mercedes and I know Ferrari!!! would LOOOOOVE to have him as soon as Alonso is gone.andrew wrote:Hamilton is a McLaren product. He ain't/can't go anywhere else.
I honestly can't remeber hearing that any other team would like him in the future. The likes of Alonso, Vettel and Kubica have all openly been on teams wish-lists but I can not recall any team principle saying they want Hamilton.
However, he also saidI honestly want to see out my career with McLaren. I do feel it's my family, it's where I am right now and it's where I'm happy.
(Daily Mail, March '09)I haven't had offers from other teams and I am not talking to anyone. But I would listen to an offer if someone asked. It would be a compliment, and it would be silly if I did not.
Martin Whitmarsh gave that excuse, but it's nonsense. If you are losing time hand over fist, lap after lap, and you believe you are still going to end up behind Webber anyway then you need to cut your losses. Staying out on tyres that are shot and are losing you time is a silly idea. Had the pitted earlier it would give Hamilton at least more time to pass Webber.MuseF1 wrote:It doesnt matter what Webbers doing, the point is you need just a touch under 30sec to pit and come out ahead. The gap was never at that stage between Hamilton/Button and Webber. No matter where Hamilton pitted, he would still be behind Webber.
Lewis has already been treated like ALonso when he had Kovalainen as teammate. The team knew that Kovi was no match to Lewis and as a result Lewis always ended up getting the best strategies, machinery, etc.etc..MuseF1 wrote:I doubt Hamilton would want to be treated like Alonso, I think Hamilton would like to win races on merit, equal machinery and opportunity. Hamilton also seems completely comfortable with the team and his team-mate, its a good combination. Look inside Red Bull and Ferrari and there has been tension there at some points this season, between drivers and team.internetf1fan wrote:I don't know how Hamilton feels but I personally believe he needs to go to a team that will treat him like Ferrari treats Alonso.
We all know Hamilton likes to take risks while racing, but McLaren seem to put him into positions where he has to take unnecessary risks all the time.
E.g. today when McLaren could have had a easy 3rd, 4th. But decided to pit late and somehow manage to let out of position Webber in front! And then they goad Hamilton into overtaking Webber!
Hamilton, change your team please! I am sick of McLaren treating you like a machine.
And today it was the right call from McLaren to pit Ham and Button, the tyres dropped off really quick, the gap between Ham-Web dropped from roughly 23sec, to 19sec, leaving them two out longer would only drop them further back, most cars in the top ten were faster than the mclarens at that point