autogyro wrote:Frustration will not change the future.
Ferrari has got to change its ideas radicaly and very fast if it wishes a place there.
If it does not VW and other wait with the axe.
donskar wrote:Agenda is Incorrect, I see you are fairly new to the forum. Welcome, and keep the posts coming. Do remember, though, that many members are not open to meaningful discussion, and that facts mean little to such people. To them, facts mean nothing when compared to their own narrow agenda.
Agenda_Is_Incorrect wrote:donskar wrote:Agenda is Incorrect, I see you are fairly new to the forum. Welcome, and keep the posts coming. Do remember, though, that many members are not open to meaningful discussion, and that facts mean little to such people. To them, facts mean nothing when compared to their own narrow agenda.
Thanks. And unfortunately you are right, that's why I guess every topic with some participations will end up completely out of their course and into the same thing no matter how hard other posts might try to bring it back and make useful discussion. The question is how much longer this is going to continue and how much longer the forum will give new chances that are being thrown away.
JohnsonsEvilTwin wrote:So to surmise then,
It was a journo attempting to put 2 and 2 together and getting 10.
The story basically revolves around VW being plenty cash rich, and FIAT needing some liquidity to help with the Chrysler merger/takeover.
Ferrari being a blue chip brand with very healthy profits would be deemed an easy target. But the complexities of the deal would be so great that just scratching the surface reveals alot of insurmountable problems.
The first being it makes FIAT money. How much FIAT gets out of it is unsubstantiated thus far, but Im sure a resourceful poster with the right searching skills could get figures.
Secondly the Ferrari Family hold veto rights to any sale, including a small stake in Ferrari and they would veto a German led Veedub takeover, of that im pretty sure.
Thirdly FIAT needs Ferrari as tech leader. Alot of Maserati requires Ferrari know-how. How much else they contribute within the group isn't verifiable, but it is a two way trade that works effectively for both companies.
Finally, you have Italian Politicians. Anyone ever been to Italy will tell you there are three things you dont mess with, the first being their mama's the second is their pasta and third Ferrari.
Will the Italians lay by idly as the Germans takeover their "identity"?
Not on your life, there would be riots all over Italy before that happened.
Oh and their is the small matter of Lamborghini and Bugatti being stable mates too. How uneasy will that be....
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