Sauber C31 Ferrari

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kilcoo316
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FrukostScones wrote:I doubt that the flow is jumping the vane to reach the slit, maybe the flow is split by the vane,
Of course it isn't.



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FrukostScones wrote: last week the flow looked like this (I know the spec is a bit different, but the inside vane stays in place.)

I doubt that the flow is jumping the vane to reach the slit, maybe the flow is split by the vane, but I doubt that this Piola guess is correct. We have seen on Maldonated's car the power/direction of the exhaust flow.
Whether it does or doesn't, I'm not quite sure obviously, but both of these pictures come from the same place. However the slit/cut would be there for the purpose of getting some flow under the floor. As you said, perhaps it splits the flow?

@kilco0316 surely you weren't referring to me?

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AnthonyG
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blokkie wrote: Image
Only on the sauber it's entry and exit is on the nose itself .
Can this really work without a device speeding up the air between the 2 holes?
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There's high pressure building up beneath the nose and the duct feeds into a relatively low pressure region created above the hump in the nose...

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mep
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Why should the flow there go around a 90° corner?
It has some inertia and high air speed. It will create lots of turbulence for very little flow going trough the hole. I can't see how this should be benefical at all.

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AnthonyG
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mep wrote:Why should the flow there go around a 90° corner?
It has some inertia and high air speed. It will create lots of turbulence for very little flow going trough the hole. I can't see how this should be benefical at all.
I think that 90° corner has to do with the mechanical bits at the front of the survival-cell.
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I noticed looking through pictures that Checo's car did not use a monkey seat in Malaysia, and Kobayashi did. Interesting no?

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mep wrote:Why should the flow there go around a 90° corner?
It has some inertia and high air speed. It will create lots of turbulence for very little flow going trough the hole. I can't see how this should be benefical at all.
The whole purpose of the slot both under & over is to get better airflow to the underside of the car.

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AnthonyG
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scarbs wrote:There's high pressure building up beneath the nose and the duct feeds into a relatively low pressure region created above the hump in the nose...
Ok, I understand.
And Red Bull is probably doing the same with the 2 slots, but then feeding the air to the (low pressure) cockpit?
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Huntresa
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I think they did the same in Australia, running one car with monkey seat and one without. Or it might have been during practice, but look it up.

Edit: Yes they did in Melbourne aswell

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strad
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Monkey seat??
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strad wrote:Monkey seat??
The little miniature wing sitting on the middle of the beam wing. :)

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strad
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Ah...Thank You
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Jersey Tom
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Monkey seat is by far my new favorite aero phrase.
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raymondu999
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Of course it has a few other names. Like simian sofa or the lemur lounger.
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