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Post Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:27 pm

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Post Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:40 pm

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Post Thu Jun 07, 2012 9:15 pm

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An innovative solution to a rear downforce shortage. :lol:
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Post Sat Jun 09, 2012 6:30 am

nice shot of the rear
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Post Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:24 am

Force Indias Endplate design now really converging towards Macs solution.. some technology transfer happening here instead of copy from competitors?
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Post Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:26 pm

From that photo they look to be running an awful lot of positive camber, perhaps they are trying to find some cornering stability?
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Post Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:49 pm

you mean negative camber
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Post Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:17 pm

JayeOFarrell wrote:From that photo they look to be running an awful lot of positive camber, perhaps they are trying to find some cornering stability?


ya i think you mean negative camber. and that amount of camber is quite common in F1. look carefully at ground level shots of any F1 car in the past few decades and you'll notice it. And its there to increase the contact patch of the outside front while cornering not exactly for cornering stability just for higher cornering speeds. Positive camber was more common in the olden days when steering stability at high speeds and bumpy tracks was more important.
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Post Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:50 pm

Ahh thank you. I have just had a lecture on this but the lecturer said he was a little rusty because it had been a while since he had taught it. I'll inform him he has got positive and negative the wrong way round :)
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:00 am

JayeOFarrell wrote:Ahh thank you. I have just had a lecture on this but the lecturer said he was a little rusty because it had been a while since he had taught it. I'll inform him he has got positive and negative the wrong way round :)

Our experience is also that radial ply requires more neg camber than x-plies . Any comments on that ?
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:00 pm

Just for my clarification, you talk about the front camber, not the rear camber right?
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:51 pm

I was talking about front camber, I should have been clearer. Because of the photo the front left wheel’s camber seemed to be either aggressive or exaggerated.
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2012 6:16 pm

JayeOFarrell wrote:I was talking about front camber, I should have been clearer. Because of the photo the front left wheel’s camber seemed to be either aggressive or exaggerated.


camber? i´d say the rear tyres are toast in that picture so that´s the interesting bit...considering the fronts look fine.
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Post Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:14 pm

They do look a little worse for wear compared to the fronts.
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Post Thu Jun 21, 2012 11:27 am

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