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Looks as high as the upper control arms if not higher.
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So they need a new crash test?

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Doubt it. They probably have a separate crash structure.
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Its just a new nose, probably crashed to make sure it crumples the right way?
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according to AMuS more than one team did a new nose crash test...
Ferrari?, Mercedes, McLaren?!
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Well isn't the force india nose different?

Also wouldn't this nose create lift? ^^^
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Mercedes had a new wider nose and wider pylons.

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McMrocks wrote:So they need a new crash test?
The cars had to be crash tested before they could test, I assume that this nose had to be crash tested before Mugello as well.


The tip is higher but the nose is still lower than nearly all the other teams. But still it's a bit more air and doesn't compromise CoG and suspension geometry like other teams.

As far as I can tell the didn't run and aero tests with it and didn't run it all day, perhaps they were looking for a big enough difference that the test driver would notice it immediately.
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Owen.C93 wrote:perhaps they were looking for a big enough difference that the test driver would notice it immediately.
I think that itยดs something along these lines.
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It dosnt need to be crashtestet for testing. They can test whatever they want in testing.

But if they want to use it in a race then it should perhaps be testet if theres changes to the internal crash structure of the nose with this new design.

And i dont believe the plough will come back with this nose. I believe the same of some others here who said that this will add some balance rearwards so that they can start adding a bit to the FW again.

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Holm86 wrote:It dosnt need to be crashtestet for testing. They can test whatever they want in testing.

But if they want to use it in a race then it should perhaps be testet if theres changes to the internal crash structure of the nose with this new design.

And i dont believe the plough will come back with this nose. I believe the same of some others here who said that this will add some balance rearwards so that they can start adding a bit to the FW again.
No the rules for this year is that you must have everything crash tested before you test stuff. You didnt follow pre testing? Marussia failed crash test and missed their one test.

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IF this is the hot setup, why did they not spend more time with it during the test? They are only marginally better using/understanding the current tire vs. the competition.

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Maybe because it is east to asses. Not much to see buy down-force and drag numbers on that track :-k Balance issues for one driver might not be for another I guess.
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McLaren can adjust the brake ducts?
In addition to the nose could still see something interesting in Mugello. Both Paffett and Turvey came during their long runs every now and again briefly in the box, parked parallel to the garage and drove to a few seconds further back. During the brief stops were not as commonly changed tires or temperatures measured. They could see only two mechanics here who feigned on both sides of the airbox with a little crank spins. The only question is what?

Without a glance at the Carbon Dress we have no definitive answer - but a hot suspect: Even before the Mugello test there were already some rumors that McLaren is said to have developed a new revolutionary ventilation of the brakes, during a race can be adjusted. Initially there was speculation that the system will only work on the rear axle. The competition but now believed that it is both front and back tested.

Temperature regulation for tires
The benefit is easily explained: The system is not about the temperature of the brakes but the heat output can be controlled from inside the rim of the tire. The first Grand Prix of the year have shown there: Who can race Sunday to respond to temperature fluctuations, has a big advantage. The new Pirelli rubber of the 2012 vintage will only work in a small window.

It would be a real coup if the engineers had found a way out of Woking, adjust the temperature in the tires during the race. Since it is the brake ducts to aerodynamic parts, the driver from the cockpit itself is nothing to adjust active. If there is no other trick would have to make the mechanics during a pit stop, the necessary settings.

At the pit stop to get but not ran directly to the brakes without taking the tire change in the length. There must be another solution be found. Have the necessary screws will therefore be moving into the central part of the car? Perhaps we are in Barcelona a little smarter. Auto Motor und Sport is tuned but definitely on topic.


http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 07992.html

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argi2007 wrote:McLaren can adjust the brake ducts?
In addition to the nose could still see something interesting in Mugello. Both Paffett and Turvey came during their long runs every now and again briefly in the box, parked parallel to the garage and drove to a few seconds further back. During the brief stops were not as commonly changed tires or temperatures measured. They could see only two mechanics here who feigned on both sides of the airbox with a little crank spins. The only question is what?
Did they come to the box during their long runs in Barcelona (test), didn't they?