Ferrari F2012

[Chuckjr]

Good development news from Fry...

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/101717

""We have a few interesting developments that we will introduce at Spa, a track which, from an aerodynamic downforce point of view, is quite special, as indeed is Monza," he said. "In fact, we will also have an aerodynamic and engine package specifically suited to the Italian track."

[F1.Ru]

Surly Spa and Monza are quite different then other tracks where top speed and also good traction dictate the outcome of the race. So F2012 will surly sports a new rear wing, nd try to put there newest engine on monza, aside from that a corresponding changes to the FW is expected. But for the few interesting developments one may be a sort of DDRS or may be a complete revision of the FW+turning vane+bargeboards+vortex generator(in the form of streak over the sidepod air inlet)+a new exhaust........... right now those are real posssibility for me than a Tilted Engine.......

[amouzouris]

Well...he said that they have an aero package and engine specifically suited for the italian track...could that special engine be..a tilted...engine????

Sorry i couldnt resist!! :p

[superdread]

Well...he said that they have an aero package and engine specifically suited for the italian track...could that special engine be..a tilted...engine????

Sorry i couldnt resist!! :p

Your punctuation to communicate rhetoric figures makes little sense. Why would you leave a pause after "tilted"? It's quite obvious what people expressively think Ferrari should or indeed should not tilt based on a discussion here that cost everyone dear time.

(Sorry, got a bit carried away there.)

[Hail22]

No one yet has mentioned that Ferrari could be looking at doing internal aero work around or with the engine that may/may not lead to the starter motor hole/Rear wing beam...

[Pierce89]

No one yet has mentioned that Ferrari could be looking at doing internal aero work around or with the engine that may/may not lead to the starter motor hole/Rear wing beam...

are you referring to some rumor? If so, could you expand?

[Hail22]

No one yet has mentioned that Ferrari could be looking at doing internal aero work around or with the engine that may/may not lead to the starter motor hole/Rear wing beam...

are you referring to some rumor? If so, could you expand?

Let me just say this...the team that is working on the "Car of the future" for 2014...have been shifted to the works/aero team during the summer holidays.

Why would the 2014 crew supposedly leave a process where its completely different/foreign to what the current/2013 design/engineering crew are doing?

Did Scuderia Ferrari leave a set process/guidelines for them during the holidays to manufacture/test components and/or new parts?

My contact has left me in the dark, but he said the leak is "credible".

Idk...sounds as if Ferrari are trying to develop a passive DDRS system and/or a new double floor (However I thought double floors are banned?)

[bhallg2k]

That sounds good and all, but have the regulations for 2014, aside from the engine, even been published yet?

Maybe your friend means that some from the design team for next year's car were temporarily reassigned to investigate the correlation difficulty that recently reared its ugly head in Maranello. Maybe they're jump-starting a VD design.

If Lotus' system works, and no one else has one at Spa and Monza, those races could be hell for all non-black cars.

[Hail22]

That sounds good and all, but have the regulations for 2014, aside from the engine, even been published yet?

Maybe your friend means that some from the design team for next year's car were temporarily reassigned to investigate the correlation difficulty that recently reared its ugly head in Maranello. Maybe they're jump-starting a VD design.

If Lotus' system works, and no one else has one at Spa and Monza, those races could be hell for all non-black cars.

He kept me in the dark, i'm drawing horrible conclusions from horrible bread crumbs...its making me quite desperate for further knowledge...xD

[Nando]

Here´s the 2014 technical regulations,
http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.ns ... _20.07.pdf

[Ferrari2183]

That sounds good and all, but have the regulations for 2014, aside from the engine, even been published yet?

Maybe your friend means that some from the design team for next year's car were temporarily reassigned to investigate the correlation difficulty that recently reared its ugly head in Maranello. Maybe they're jump-starting a VD design.

If Lotus' system works, and no one else has one at Spa and Monza, those races could be hell for all non-black cars.

Tombazis or Fry, can't remember who, said some time ago that there is a team working on the 2014 car already. Something along the lines of: "We have 3 programs running concurrently, development of the F2012, the 2013 car as well as the 2014 car."

It was in one of the Racing News episodes I believe.

[alogoc]

alogoc ‏@alogoc
@Truzonef1 OK! I need your help.no one seems to believe me as to WHY would Ferrari tilt they engine,they say it's to muc work for..........

31 Jul Enrique Rodríguez ‏@Truzonef1
@alogoc Cooling and the weight distribution, for better treatment of tires. But, we will see if in SPA is implemented

[Spankyham]

alogoc ‏@alogoc
@Truzonef1 OK! I need your help.no one seems to believe me as to WHY would Ferrari tilt they engine,they say it's to muc work for..........

31 Jul Enrique Rodríguez ‏@Truzonef1
@alogoc Cooling and the weight distribution, for better treatment of tires. But, we will see if in SPA is implemented

Weight distribution is set - there is only a very small window of leeway there so how could that be a valid reason?

[PhillipM]

The saying about arses and elbows comes to mind.

[F1.Ru]

alogoc ‏@alogoc
@Truzonef1 OK! I need your help.no one seems to believe me as to WHY would Ferrari tilt they engine,they say it's to muc work for..........
31 Jul Enrique Rodríguez ‏@Truzonef1
@alogoc Cooling and the weight distribution, for better treatment of tires. But, we will see if in SPA is implemented

I don't understand how cooling is supposed to be helped by tilting an engine, as far as i know that ferrari supposedly corrected their cooling problem and as now there are 2/4 different slot for cooling exit and never after bercelona we listen about nything about their cooling problem.

And about weight distribution a higher tilted engine will increase the CoG and also hinder the internal cooling as we know that this year there are no scope for directing your air to your DDD, so in my opinion that is just a rumor which is fishing in the net......