Red Bull RB8 Renault

[Hail22]

Found this on Autoevolutions blog site posted today:



Looks to be the RB8 with the modesty nose fairings and before anyone starts going omg shark fin yadda ya, do we all remember when MSC and Mercedes were testing on behalf of the FIA a driver/Country display fin?



This would create less confusion for the "casual" fan to identify their favoured driver(s).

[richard_leeds]

Found this on Autoevolutions blog site posted today:

Looks to be the RB8 with the modesty nose fairings and before anyone starts going omg shark fin yadda ya, do we all remember when MSC and Mercedes were testing on behalf of the FIA a driver/Country display fin?

That's the RB7 Launch Car!

http://www.ausmotive.com/2011/02/01/red ... 1-car.html

[irang]

Found this on Autoevolutions blog site posted today:

http://s1.aecdn.com/images/news/red-bul ... 3883-7.jpg

Looks to be the RB8 with the modesty nose fairings and before anyone starts going omg shark fin yadda ya, do we all remember when MSC and Mercedes were testing on behalf of the FIA a driver/Country display fin?

http://mercamgf1-fans.com/wp-content/up ... rkfin7.jpg

This would create less confusion for the "casual" fan to identify their favoured driver(s).

How kind of you to let us know!

[turbof1]

Found this on Autoevolutions blog site posted today:

Looks to be the RB8 with the modesty nose fairings and before anyone starts going omg shark fin yadda ya, do we all remember when MSC and Mercedes were testing on behalf of the FIA a driver/Country display fin?

Nothing tells me this is the new car. Like pointed out, it is the RB7. Same sidepods, same sharkfin, completely identical nosecone. Infact a quick search on google shows studio foto's of the RB7 completely the same as the one you posted: http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2011/02/01/r ... b7_studio/

[timbo]

Found this on Autoevolutions blog site posted today:

Looks to be the RB8 with the modesty nose fairings and before anyone starts going omg shark fin yadda ya, do we all remember when MSC and Mercedes were testing on behalf of the FIA a driver/Country display fin?

Nothing tells me this is the new car. Like pointed out, it is the RB7. Same sidepods, same sharkfin, completely identical nosecone.

Most importantly, no Infinity logos=)

[Gridlock]

'New' photo posters: http://www.tineye.com is your friend.

http://www.tineye.com/search/9e81d73656 ... 51c0b4d55/

[gilgen]

Why do posters keep posting old photos of past cars?

[richard_leeds]

If anyone is interested i have some close up pics of the RB8 from the Autosport show, and a shot of inside the tunnel on sidepods, if you would like me to share then just let me know. Im not gonna upload them now because i know there from an earlier spec car and maybe useless.

They sound interesting so please do post them in the right thread, or start a thread saying "Which RB car is this?" and I'll move it to the right place once it has been identified.

[raymondu999]

http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/ ... 012-start/

Adrian Newey has confirmed reports an eleventh-hour ban by the FIA was a serious setback to Red Bull's 2012 preparations.

It emerged in recent days that, just as the reigning champions were preparing to test debut the ultimately title-winning RB8, F1's governing body banned Newey's solution to the new blown exhaust clampdown.

"It set us back further than we thought," Briton Newey told Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.

"When we looked at the new rules, we thought the effects would be less severe, especially because we thought we could compensate well."

However, the FIA said Red Bull could not use its proposed 2012 exhaust solution.

"So because of the lack of time, we went to the first test with a conventional exhaust in the engine cowling," said Newey. Frantic work behind the scenes then began on a so-called 'Coanda' solution.

He revealed that the banned 2012 solution was a sophisticated sort of rear brake duct that absorbed exhaust gases.

"There was a loophole in the rules for the area behind the rear suspension," said designer Newey. "So you could have something that collects the gases and transports them where you want them."

The FIA quickly closed the loophole, leaving Red Bull scrambling for balance at the start of 2012.

"It was hard to find a balance, yes," Newey confirmed. "We had understeer, oversteer, often booth simultaneously."

He says often that the FIA's constant crusade against innovation is frustrating.

"We should be careful that the rules don't restrict the inventive spirit. The beauty of Formula One is the struggle of man against man but also machine against machine.

"There is something for every interest. The more stringent the rules are, the faster we move towards 'GP1'. Do we want that?

"I'm surprised how many of my colleagues at the meetings of the technical working group make the case for more restrictions. It's as if we are letting the turkeys vote for Christmas."

[turbof1]

"So you could have something that collects the gases and transports them where you want them."

Interesting. If I am correct, there has to be within a certain distance and radius of the exhaust exit, no bodywork. Could they have found a potentional loophole which could have allowed it anyway? And what do they mean with "absorbing"? Just a channel or something different?

[raymondu999]

I read somewhere (I think in an Autosport article, Mark Hughes' column) that the solution was basically a duct that just sent it down to the diffuser like a pipe. Perhaps using the pickup points? Would've worked well with the A-spec RB8 exhausts.

But the one with the brake ducts confuses me as that theory gets thrown out of the water.

[Jackles-UK]

Yes it was exploiting a loophole Red Bull had spotted where the conical exclusion zone for bodywork behind the exhausts stopped around the front of the rear tyre. Scarbs suggested doing something similar-ish to this theory on his season rules preview this time last year.

Their plan was to combine some of the caught exhaust gases (with the expansion rate of the plume the amount actually harvested is up for discussion) the with high velocity air from the surroundings in a kind of funnel and channel them to the diffuser; maybe toward the edges similar to their 2011 EBD. This allowed them to be very accurate in channelling the gases to where they wanted and opened the possibility of an RB7-style exhaust exit solution (albeit far less effective).

[Gridlock]

***Answered***

This is 1 of the 3 remaining teams I don't have an exact launch time for, if anyone can help please PM me or post here:

viewtopic.php?p=405416#p405416

Cheers

[Coefficient]

Why do posters keep posting old photos of past cars?

Some people think that the ability to use google makes them a hacker. LOL!

[matt21]

Interesting. If I am correct, there has to be within a certain distance and radius of the exhaust exit, no bodywork. Could they have found a potentional loophole which could have allowed it anyway? And what do they mean with "absorbing"? Just a channel or something different?

In the actual rules is written that no bodywork has tu be in the cone up to the rear axle. Why are they not using their solution as it would have been located behind the axle as Newey said?