Mercedes AMG F1 W03

[rayden]

The Lotus has no exhaust trickery and is still very good - I still don't think exhausts are the answer. Exhausts could maybe be the straw that breaks the camel's back, but I think there's also a lot to gain through a more "organic" development of the car too.

True, but Red Bull seemed to find a junk of time in Valencia with their new rear floor arrangement so perhaps there is something in that exhaust setup. But I agree that Merc need to fully understand their car, tires and setup before throwing another variable of exhaust configuration into the mix.

I'm not sure I agree with that. The exhaust portion of the Red Bull wasn't changed in Valencia - it was the tunnel underneath the exhaust. Red Bull's exhaust remained pretty much unchanged for Valencia. So in effect it was also an upgrade on the more "fundamental" aerodynamics of the car.

I disagree, both the exhaust ramp and the outlet itself was very different from previous iterations.
also their previous versions off the tunnel weren't working correctly so the airflow around the lower sidepods was disrupting their exhaust flow before valencia.

getting a bit off topic now though...

[Matt Somers]

Doh, would appear I'm wrong (hands up) can't get them all right eh LOL

[Ozan]

RedBull's new tunnel upgrade may be useful with our mini-DDD, what do you think guys ?

[Owen.C93]

They only have a tunnel because they need to re coup losses from installing an exhaust ramp, Merc don't have that problem.

[Huntresa]

They only have a tunnel because they need to re coup losses from installing an exhaust ramp, Merc don't have that problem.

The tunnel might be better then an open coke bottle area.

[marcush.]

as i understand the coke bottle is there to minimise convergeance of flow between engine cover sidepods and rear tyre -and is in a ways the equivalent of a high nose ? I don´t think the tunnels can provide any of that it´s a completly different matter of connecting flow coming from the front wing to the diffuser.

[Owen.C93]

They only have a tunnel because they need to re coup losses from installing an exhaust ramp, Merc don't have that problem.

The tunnel might be better then an open coke bottle area.

They could use an RB7 type tunnel if they wanted. But there's not much need because they dont blow the starter hole, they just control the flow over the center of the diffuser. I don't believe it's really that significant, it's just a little extra body work that allows them to run a slightly higher and more profiled gurney.

[N12ck]

They only have a tunnel because they need to re coup losses from installing an exhaust ramp, Merc don't have that problem.

The tunnel might be better then an open coke bottle area.

They could use an RB7 type tunnel if they wanted. But there's not much need because they dont blow the starter hole, they just control the flow over the center of the diffuser. I don't believe it's really that significant, it's just a little extra body work that allows them to run a slightly higher and more profiled gurney.

they are doing that, the outer tunnel blows the starter motor hole,

[Owen.C93]

The tunnel might be better then an open coke bottle area.

They could use an RB7 type tunnel if they wanted. But there's not much need because they dont blow the starter hole, they just control the flow over the center of the diffuser. I don't believe it's really that significant, it's just a little extra body work that allows them to run a slightly higher and more profiled gurney.

they are doing that, the outer tunnel blows the starter motor hole,

W03?

[Huntresa]

RB7 had a tunnel? :O

[scarbs]

RB7 had a tunnel? :O

yes, http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2011/06/0 ... -analysis/

[Huntresa]

Would hardly compare that to this tunnel. thats just 2 ducts at the end so the air actually went into the starter hole.

[N12ck]

W03?

sorry thought u were on about rb8 at that moment,

[Owen.C93]

Would hardly compare that to this tunnel. thats just 2 ducts at the end so the air actually went into the starter hole.

Which is why it would be more suitable to the W03, putting a tunnel in the middle of the floor for no reason would make no sense on the W03 unlike the RB7 ducts which could work.

[Morteza]

Any pics from Silverstone?