Lotus E21 Renault

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Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:32 pm

beelsebob wrote:
turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

I'm confident that what they mean is "we found some downforce in a loophole in the rules for the vanity cover, but we're keeping it back for the first race".

or that possibly!
amouzouris
 
Joined: 14 Feb 2011

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:34 pm

Mika1 wrote:It's a painted E20, they don't show their cards.


You font see the exhaust ramp + tunnel ? And downwash foil Before the sidepod. And New fw
Huntresa
 
Joined: 3 Dec 2011

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:34 pm

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bucker
 
Joined: 2 Aug 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:34 pm

Mclaren undercut style sidepods and exhaust... only big visual changes.
copperkipper1
 
Joined: 16 Feb 2011

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:35 pm

copperkipper1 wrote:Mclaren undercut style sidepods and exhaust... only big visual changes.

Its red bull ramp and tunnel
Huntresa
 
Joined: 3 Dec 2011

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:36 pm

Oh well I hope Ferrari doesn't care about a few grams... You blew it Lotus.
Hobbs04
 
Joined: 7 Jun 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:36 pm

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bucker
 
Joined: 2 Aug 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:37 pm

I wonder if that ramp exhaust is also just for show. The rest of the car is pretty much the e20 and that ramp exhaust was possibly one of their development parts from last year that didn't make it onto the track.
Vasco
 
Joined: 21 Apr 2004
Location: Johannesburg, South Africa

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:37 pm

beelsebob wrote:
turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

I'm confident that what they mean is "we found some downforce in a loophole in the rules for the vanity cover, but we're keeping it back for the first race".


Indeed, by the words he said afterwards that "maybe if they found something". get it through the PR-translator and you get; "We have found something which we aren't going to show"
wesley123
 
Joined: 23 Feb 2008

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:38 pm

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via f1zone.
"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985
stefan_
 
Joined: 4 Feb 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:38 pm

bucker wrote:Image


Nice wing above the small downwash wings
Huntresa
 
Joined: 3 Dec 2011

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:38 pm

Front wing is exactly the same as last year, expecting they are hiding something like this...
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RicerDude
 
Joined: 10 Sep 2012

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:39 pm

wesley123 wrote:
beelsebob wrote:
turbof1 wrote:So they didn't put the panel due weight. Weird; the panel would weight near nothing.

I'm confident that what they mean is "we found some downforce in a loophole in the rules for the vanity cover, but we're keeping it back for the first race".


Indeed, by the words he said afterwards that "maybe if they found something". get it through the PR-translator and you get; "We have found something which we aren't going to show"

We can only hope it's the case...
rjsa
 
Joined: 2 Mar 2007

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:40 pm

Today's car/E20: very similar monocoque/bodywork (if not the same):

http://i16.servimg.com/u/f16/14/79/55/26/img_jp10.jpg

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Blackout
 
Joined: 9 Feb 2010

Post Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:41 pm

RicerDude wrote:Front wing is exactly the same as last year, expecting they are hiding something like this...
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There is no gain in doing that since the central "spoon" in the front wing is gone and aero neutral. The Ferrari nose hole was there to grab air from that spoon.
wesley123
 
Joined: 23 Feb 2008

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