Thanks for the link mate Things that surprised me isCrucial_Xtreme wrote:AMuS has posted in pictures, the updates the F14T received throughout the year.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 48190.html
Here is a very good detailed analysis of the F14T's front wing--> http://www.f1technical.net/features/19217Harsha wrote:
Is the lack of Front wing development due to nose change for 2015 or switching for Pull rod to Push rod ?
i heard a strong rumour that they will change to Push rod. So it relates with lack of development in this area and what about these in 2015 i heard this doesn't give them enough benefitCrucial_Xtreme wrote:Here is a very good detailed analysis of the F14T's front wing--> http://www.f1technical.net/features/19217Harsha wrote:
Is the lack of Front wing development due to nose change for 2015 or switching for Pull rod to Push rod ?
I think the the lack of FW development as you put it, is down to the fact that this FW is an evolution of previous FW's that has been in the making for years. I assume the car is getting the necessary air flow from the wing that it needs. But I'm only assuming. I think for sure if Ferrari switch back to a push rod front suspension for 2015, we will see a change in the FW for 2015.
The rumor is they will return to push rod because it's believed its relative benefits are minimal and that the pull rod is hindering fine tuning car set-up. I don't believe the pull rod is responsible for a lack of development on any area of the car.Harsha wrote: i heard a strong rumour that they will change to Push rod. So it relates with lack of development in this area and what about these in 2015 i heard this doesn't give them enough benefit
Ok thank you perhaps this is the difference between an arm chair vs expert in reading rumoursCrucial_Xtreme wrote:The rumor is they will return to push rod because it's believed its relative benefits are minimal and that the pull rod is hindering fine tuning car set-up. I don't believe the pull rod is responsible for a lack of development on any area of the car.Harsha wrote: i heard a strong rumour that they will change to Push rod. So it relates with lack of development in this area and what about these in 2015 i heard this doesn't give them enough benefit
As for the huge front brake ducts, I have no idea how much benefit they're getting from the blown axle. Perhaps next year the will get sufficient out wash with the FW and won't use the blown axle or maybe it helps quite a bit. We won't know until next year.
Uh.... I feel they have gone backwards if anything, from 2013 to 2o14. When the winter tests started back in February, I did raised this point that F14T is lagging behind in terms of the frontal grip as was evident from their BASIC looking FW, whereas Merc and RB came with, essentially a step forward from where they left in 2013 as they had carried forward their previous FWs. Throughout the year, there wasn't much that happened on F14T FW and I feel that is why Kimi kept losing feel for the front and looked so ordinary.Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Here is a very good detailed analysis of the F14T's front wing--> http://www.f1technical.net/features/19217Harsha wrote:
Is the lack of Front wing development due to nose change for 2015 or switching for Pull rod to Push rod ?
I think the the lack of FW development as you put it, is down to the fact that this FW is an evolution of previous FW's that has been in the making for years. I assume the car is getting the necessary air flow from the wing that it needs. But I'm only assuming. I think for sure if Ferrari switch back to a push rod front suspension for 2015, we will see a change in the FW for 2015.
So you have deduced that the F14T was lacking in front grip because their front wing looks basic?? Seriously?prince wrote:
Uh.... I feel they have gone backwards if anything, from 2013 to 2o14. When the winter tests started back in February, I did raised this point that F14T is lagging behind in terms of the frontal grip as was evident from their BASIC looking FW, whereas Merc and RB came with, essentially a step forward from where they left in 2013 as they had carried forward their previous FWs. Throughout the year, there wasn't much that happened on F14T FW and I feel that is why Kimi kept losing feel for the front and looked so ordinary.
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 84#p479984
I remember how W01 to W03 cars were criticized for having poor front wings and how everyone got excited when they finally saw a 5 element front wing on W04. Generally, front wings have been a mirror to the rear grip that a car has, so that shows F14T's woes.
(Thanks for linking to my analysis, Crucial!)Crucial_Xtreme wrote:So you have deduced that the F14T was lacking in front grip because their front wing looks basic?? Seriously?prince wrote:
Uh.... I feel they have gone backwards if anything, from 2013 to 2o14. When the winter tests started back in February, I did raised this point that F14T is lagging behind in terms of the frontal grip as was evident from their BASIC looking FW, whereas Merc and RB came with, essentially a step forward from where they left in 2013 as they had carried forward their previous FWs. Throughout the year, there wasn't much that happened on F14T FW and I feel that is why Kimi kept losing feel for the front and looked so ordinary.
http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewto ... 84#p479984
I remember how W01 to W03 cars were criticized for having poor front wings and how everyone got excited when they finally saw a 5 element front wing on W04. Generally, front wings have been a mirror to the rear grip that a car has, so that shows F14T's woes.
Although the wing in your opinion looks basic, I linked to a detailed analysis which clearly details exactly how complex the front wing really is. I'm trying not to be rude here, but looks does not determine the aerodynamic effectiveness of a front wing or any other part for that matter.