Mclaren MP4-30 Honda

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PlatinumZealot wrote: Low speed down-force and traction is what Mclaren lacks. Hungary didn't show the power improvement because of it.. but I believe Arai more than Ron Dennis. Remember how slow the car was last year with all those false promises from Ron?

My interpretation of what Arai was saying is, on a track like Hungry that takes the PU power out of the equation, if you're not doing well, it's on the car(as a whole). So if McLaren had a better chassis/aero they would have finished higher up in Quali, it wasn't cause of a lack of grunt. RBR do have a better chassis/aero and they did fare better.

On the other hand the Hungry Honda PU doesn't have enough grunt to get you where you want to be on a track like SPA.

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It looks like the charge air piping is now on the opposite side of the front of the ICE. It was on the driver's right before, now it's on the driver's left.
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My interpretation of what Arai was saying is, on a track like Hungry that takes the PU power out of the equation, if you're not doing well, it's on the car(as a whole). So if McLaren had a better chassis/aero they would have finished higher up in Quali, it wasn't cause of a lack of grunt. RBR do have a better chassis/aero and they did fare better.

On the other hand the Hungry Honda PU doesn't have enough grunt to get you where you want to be on a track like SPA.
If that is indeed what Arai intended to say, then he is either delusional or has a very short memory. Both cars had technical problems in qualifying (granted neither was really the engine 's fault - for a change) that crippled them at critical times and led to the utter embarrassment of Alonso pushing his car into the pits. Qualifying was no standard to measure the chassis by... The final result, while somewhat flattering, proved that the car had top-10 speed despite a weak engine.

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Well that engine cover is definitely new. Hmmm I wonder if they got rid of the spine cooler and went a more conventional route. If they did then that would be quite a large change.
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matt21 wrote:
bauc wrote:Is that some kind of sensor bolted to the fw on the photo above :?:

Thanks.
If you mean this (red circle), it is the flap adjuster.

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Nice updates, that engine cover always looked like the weak link of the "size zero" design. Spa will definitely be a measure of what to expect for the rest of the season.

Unrelated: Can somebody explain why is that air filter on the fuel lid when the car is in the pits?

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DiogoBrand wrote:Nice updates, that engine cover always looked like the weak link of the "size zero" design. Spa will definitely be a measure of what to expect for the rest of the season.

Unrelated: Can somebody explain why is that air filter on the fuel lid when the car is in the pits?
It's a breather - to stop build up of fuel vapor mixed with oxygen in and around the car.

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Moose wrote:
DiogoBrand wrote:Nice updates, that engine cover always looked like the weak link of the "size zero" design. Spa will definitely be a measure of what to expect for the rest of the season.

Unrelated: Can somebody explain why is that air filter on the fuel lid when the car is in the pits?
It's a breather - to stop build up of fuel vapor mixed with oxygen in and around the car.
Isn't it easier to just leave it closed?

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Interesting what they have done with that spine cooler

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DiogoBrand wrote:
Moose wrote:
DiogoBrand wrote:Nice updates, that engine cover always looked like the weak link of the "size zero" design. Spa will definitely be a measure of what to expect for the rest of the season.

Unrelated: Can somebody explain why is that air filter on the fuel lid when the car is in the pits?
It's a breather - to stop build up of fuel vapor mixed with oxygen in and around the car.
Isn't it easier to just leave it closed?

if its close limited the capacity.....