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kalinka wrote:Interesting also that on steering on upper picture all the buttons are much more protected against accidental activating. They all have rings around for protection. against unwanted activation. Wonder which is Rosberg's and which is Hamilton's ?

at 58 sec you can see that the protected one is Lewis' as you can recognise it from the colors of the bottons

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And the gloves!

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Gettingonabit wrote:And the gloves!
we were talking about this two steering wheels without the driver below as 1 and 2
Fig. no 1Image
Fig no. 2Image
As you can see Kalinka was talking about the button protections with rings around it as means of not activating it accidently. So I showed the Spain video as a example to correlate the colors of the upper left 3 buttons to determine that it was indeed Lewis' with protected buttons around it or the fig. no. 2 as Lewis' steering wheel
hence my own quote below
siskue2005 wrote:
kalinka wrote:Interesting also that on steering on upper picture all the buttons are much more protected against accidental activating. They all have rings around for protection. against unwanted activation. Wonder which is Rosberg's and which is Hamilton's ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWU2DZjDEeM
at 58 sec you can see that the protected one is Lewis' as you can recognise it from the colors of the bottons

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Simplest identification is that Nico has his wheel covered in little paper notes...
If you are more fortunate than others, build a larger table not a taller fence.

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Just_a_fan wrote:Simplest identification is that Nico has his wheel covered in little paper notes...
nice =D>

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Is it new the rear wing mounting pylon that intersects with the exhaust?

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atanatizante wrote:Is it new the rear wing mounting pylon that intersects with the exhaust?

http://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Me ... 950909.jpg
Doesn't look like it. To me it seems it is connected to that dark piece of material around the exhaust pipe.

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Mercedes has very soft, to zero rear anti-roll bar stiffness for their Monaco setup

https://streamable.com/zbm3

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Mark4211 wrote:Mercedes has very soft, to zero rear anti-roll bar stiffness for their Monaco setup

https://streamable.com/zbm3
Great view indeed. For the past few years I've noticed the back of the Merc is quite soft with a lot of roll.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
atanatizante wrote:Is it new the rear wing mounting pylon that intersects with the exhaust?

http://imgr1.auto-motor-und-sport.de/Me ... 950909.jpg
Doesn't look like it. To me it seems it is connected to that dark piece of material around the exhaust pipe.
I don`t think so ...
I think that dark material is there in order to reinforce the exhaust pipe together with those two waste-gates ...
From another point of view now they introduced serrated FW on the 4th SYNTIUM cascade below or above it ...

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In this picture, unfortunately, you can`t see it but I witness to saw it on live tv coverage taken by Lewis`s camera car attached near the nose cone ... maybe someone could help me with a proper picture ...
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Mark4211 wrote:Mercedes has very soft, to zero rear anti-roll bar stiffness for their Monaco setup

https://streamable.com/zbm3
I'm going to walk out into a limb here.

I think this a big advantage of using a hydraulic left-right interconnect instead of a mechanical anti-roll setup.

Under certain load parameters, it can be tuned stiff, as would be desirable in medium to high-speed corners.

However, things like the kerb in the video are sudden hits which have the potential to lift the car right off the ground if it's too stiff laterally. Judging by the video, this car has what amounts to a blow off valve for its hydraulic interconnect.

I know when front-rear interconnect was barred, there was some debate about the merits of hydraulic interconnect left-right. The Merc has been said to ride the kerbs quite nicely and I think this is why. This video makes the rear wheels appear entirely independent in their movements, it would look absurd around the rest of the circuit if something fancy wasn't happening IMO.

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Nickel wrote:
Mark4211 wrote:Mercedes has very soft, to zero rear anti-roll bar stiffness for their Monaco setup

https://streamable.com/zbm3
I'm going to walk out into a limb here.

I think this a big advantage of using a hydraulic left-right interconnect instead of a mechanical anti-roll setup.

Under certain load parameters, it can be tuned stiff, as would be desirable in medium to high-speed corners.

However, things like the kerb in the video are sudden hits which have the potential to lift the car right off the ground if it's too stiff laterally. Judging by the video, this car has what amounts to a blow off valve for its hydraulic interconnect.

I know when front-rear interconnect was barred, there was some debate about the merits of hydraulic interconnect left-right. The Merc has been said to ride the kerbs quite nicely and I think this is why. This video makes the rear wheels appear entirely independent in their movements, it would look absurd around the rest of the circuit if something fancy wasn't happening IMO.
For sure Merc's suspension geometry and trickery allows them to ride kerbs greatly.
Even their front suspension show the same effects of the hydraulic anti-roll bar
https://streamable.com/flvn
https://streamable.com/i131

--(I hope this is not going off topic)--
From what I have observed over the years, Williams 2014, and Ferrari have similar (correct me if I am wrong) independent suspension geometries.

Williams: https://streamable.com/jr0e
Ferrari: https://streamable.com/g0l2

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Mark4211 wrote:
Nickel wrote:
Mark4211 wrote:Mercedes has very soft, to zero rear anti-roll bar stiffness for their Monaco setup

https://streamable.com/zbm3
I'm going to walk out into a limb here.

I think this a big advantage of using a hydraulic left-right interconnect instead of a mechanical anti-roll setup.

Under certain load parameters, it can be tuned stiff, as would be desirable in medium to high-speed corners.

However, things like the kerb in the video are sudden hits which have the potential to lift the car right off the ground if it's too stiff laterally. Judging by the video, this car has what amounts to a blow off valve for its hydraulic interconnect.

I know when front-rear interconnect was barred, there was some debate about the merits of hydraulic interconnect left-right. The Merc has been said to ride the kerbs quite nicely and I think this is why. This video makes the rear wheels appear entirely independent in their movements, it would look absurd around the rest of the circuit if something fancy wasn't happening IMO.
For sure Merc's suspension geometry and trickery allows them to ride kerbs greatly.
Even their front suspension show the same effects of the hydraulic anti-roll bar
https://streamable.com/flvn
https://streamable.com/i131

--(I hope this is not going off topic)--
From what I have observed over the years, Williams 2014, and Ferrari have similar (correct me if I am wrong) independent suspension geometries.

Williams: https://streamable.com/jr0e
Ferrari: https://streamable.com/g0l2

Looks like the inside suspension is on downstairs limit, as it is unloaded, and the outside in it normal working range.

Might also be some very degressive spring stiffness. But for me it just looks like down stop.

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The Wicked + The Divine.

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turbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
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