You see less changes.on the RB12 because the red bull is much further into diminishing returnslio007 wrote:Before the season RBR expected to be competitive in the second half of 2016. Nobody could ever thought to exceed their expectations that much.
If you compare the pre season-spec of Mercedes, Ferrari and McLaren with their latest iterations from Silverstone, you can see really A LOT OF differences and updates.
The RB12 is pretty much the opposite. More or less pre season configuration. Do you think RBR will start an update firework after the summer break ... because they originally thought to be competitive since then.
They are preparing for 2017 since april! They also told media (afair ~2 weeks ago) that there will be no more big upgrades beside the obvious Spa/Monza packages.Pierce89 wrote:lio007 wrote:You see less changes.on the RB12 because the red bull is much further into diminishing returns
"It’s interesting that Red Bull are constantly peddling a story about the low power they’ve got, but just to set the record straight at this event as they often do, they chose to run a higher level of wing than we did.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merce ... er-798050/
This is really interesting bit. For a moment, if we assume that there isn't much between Mercedes and Renault PUs and as Paddy says, RBR is running more wing than Mercedes, which means relatively more downforce on RBR, but the point is, they still are quite far behind on the sector times. If you look at the way the Mercedes car was planted and flowing through those high downforce section, no one can say they had any kind of downforce deficit.SectorOne wrote:From P. Lowe:
"It’s interesting that Red Bull are constantly peddling a story about the low power they’ve got, but just to set the record straight at this event as they often do, they chose to run a higher level of wing than we did.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merce ... er-798050/
Paddy probably was at vacation when they raced in Baku.SectorOne wrote:From P. Lowe:
"It’s interesting that Red Bull are constantly peddling a story about the low power they’ve got, but just to set the record straight at this event as they often do, they chose to run a higher level of wing than we did.
http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merce ... er-798050/
It's a bit of a "burn". Red Bull complained a lot last year, even going as far as saying(if I remember correctly) they would be World Champions with a better engine.Juzh wrote:It's a non deniable fact mercedes PU is MUCH better in probably every aspect there is. What lowe is implying with that statement is some next level smoke and mirrors.
Why didn't he come out with that statement after baku when wing levels were reversed and still merc was far ahead.
Or austria.
You should check your facts... Just compare last years time differences to Mercs in quali and also check the improvement teams made on every track compared to last year.wesley123 wrote:The Renault engine clearly has improved compared to last year, still, Red Bull isn't anywhere closer.
wesley123 wrote:"Yo Red Bull, our aero is better than yours as well"
Yes, Mercedes out-developed Red Bull, that was the whole point of the argument.gandharva wrote:You should check your facts... Just compare last years time differences to Mercs in quali and also check the improvement teams made on every track compared to last year.wesley123 wrote:The Renault engine clearly has improved compared to last year, still, Red Bull isn't anywhere closer.
https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/69474437.jpgwesley123 wrote:"Yo Red Bull, our aero is better than yours as well"