Williams FW40 Mercedes

[GTO99]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C44fNxuVUAESnYj.jpg

Thanks for the comparison photo LBT.
I realize the viewpoints of the two pics are not the same, but why have the rear flanks of the engine cover become wider?
Is it due to the increased rake of the floor that engine components have been shifted slightly higher?
I'm not clear as to the increased bulk in that area. If anything, I thought this years longer cars would have allowed for a more tapered longitudinal shape. How much approx. has the wheelbase been increased?

[FW17]

Side pod looks like it melted and drooped in the middle

[Blackout]

The floor looks like it has an unusual shape in certain areas.

http://imgur.com/yVtjHHW.jpg

No it's very usual or atleast it was usual in many cars of a near past. This is only a bit more extreme.

[SR71]

The floor looks like it has an unusual shape in certain areas.

http://imgur.com/yVtjHHW.jpg

No it's very usual or atleast it was usual in many cars of a near past. This is only a bit more extreme.

Could you show me a car from the near past that has similar leading edge profiles as I described a few posts back?

In fact I'd like to see 1 F1 car from the near past that has floor leading edges tapering from center line to outside edge even remotely as extreme as this CAD rendering.

[Blackout]

The floor looks like it has an unusual shape in certain areas.

http://imgur.com/yVtjHHW.jpg

No it's very usual or atleast it was usual in many cars of a near past. This is only a bit more extreme.

Could you show me a car from the near past that has similar leading edge profiles as I described a few posts back?

In fact I'd like to see 1 F1 car from the near past that has floor leading edges tapering from center line to outside edge even remotely as extreme as this CAD rendering.

Yes the tapered, radiussed, angled, thick floor leading edges are nothing new.
Many cars had flat and knife-sharp leading edges but many others had floors like the one we are talking about (but were hidden by the bargeboards so you're partly forgiven) for aero reasons and/or because they contained thick crash structures
Thanks to the new rules all floors will be larger and some floors/turning vanes will look even more tapered, radiussed, angled and thick. So it will be more noticebale and extreme like I said.
And he sharp undercut of the Williams sidepods + their 2016 width do accentuate that look.
The 2014 Williams and Mclaen for example were similar
http://static6.businessinsider.com/imag ... d-prix.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y2jNrqdPZlc/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/79/55/26/cmprsn10.jpg
C32 http://i.imgur.com/wKd9v8t.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.f1fanatic.co.uk/w ... LE0965.jpg
The angling of the leading edge (when viewed from the front) was more common and visible in the 2002-2009 era AFAIR but couldnt find good enough pics.

[SR71]

No it's very usual or atleast it was usual in many cars of a near past. This is only a bit more extreme.

Could you show me a car from the near past that has similar leading edge profiles as I described a few posts back?

In fact I'd like to see 1 F1 car from the near past that has floor leading edges tapering from center line to outside edge even remotely as extreme as this CAD rendering.

Yes the tapered, radiussed, angled, thick floor leading edges are nothing new.
Many cars had flat and knife-sharp leading edges but many others had floors like the one we are talking about (but were hidden by the bargeboards so you're partly forgiven) for aero reasons and/or because they contained thick crash structures
Thanks to the new rules all floors will be larger and some floors/turning vanes will look even more tapered, radiussed, angled and thick. So it will be more noticebale and extreme like I said.
And he sharp undercut of the Williams sidepods + their 2016 width do accentuate that look.
The 2014 Williams and Mclaen for example were similar
http://static6.businessinsider.com/imag ... d-prix.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y2jNrqdPZlc/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/79/55/26/cmprsn10.jpg
C32 http://i.imgur.com/wKd9v8t.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.f1fanatic.co.uk/w ... LE0965.jpg
The angling of the leading edge (when viewed from the front) was more common and visible in the 2002-2009 era AFAIR but couldnt find good enough pics.

I understand teams have approached this area with considerable investment in the past.

However doubling the available radii hardly means doubling the investment. In fact this will be a high spending area.

I expect most teams to more than 4X the spending in this era (50mm era). Given the effectiveness of the W floor and it's ability to create a 50+mm leading edge in a 50mm max spec formula, no teams will be giving away any advantage on the floors leading edge.

[LookBackTime]

Tech analysis: Dissecting the new Williams FW40
By: Matt Somerfield, Assistant Technical Editor

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/tech- ... 40-874693/

[AnthonyG]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C44fvzOVcAA_Psk.jpg

The new shark fin goes deeper than the old one. I think "in the flesh" it will be quite noticable.

[jericho]

I'm realy not impressed with the first images of the 2017 cars. Hopefully it will be better with the rest of the cars. The FW40 doesn't look agressive like they said the cars whould look.

[cmF1]

Guys can we please ask that conversation is kept to the cars hardware only? While we appreciate your opinions and what you like on what the car/render looks like, can you post them in the Team thread?

I'm not deleting posts just yet, but if it does continue I'm afraid I'll have to.

Charlie

[andone89]

Could you show me a car from the near past that has similar leading edge profiles as I described a few posts back?

In fact I'd like to see 1 F1 car from the near past that has floor leading edges tapering from center line to outside edge even remotely as extreme as this CAD rendering.

Yes the tapered, radiussed, angled, thick floor leading edges are nothing new.
Many cars had flat and knife-sharp leading edges but many others had floors like the one we are talking about (but were hidden by the bargeboards so you're partly forgiven) for aero reasons and/or because they contained thick crash structures
Thanks to the new rules all floors will be larger and some floors/turning vanes will look even more tapered, radiussed, angled and thick. So it will be more noticebale and extreme like I said.
And he sharp undercut of the Williams sidepods + their 2016 width do accentuate that look.
The 2014 Williams and Mclaen for example were similar
http://static6.businessinsider.com/imag ... d-prix.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/y2jNrqdPZlc/maxresdefault.jpg
https://i58.servimg.com/u/f58/14/79/55/26/cmprsn10.jpg
C32 http://i.imgur.com/wKd9v8t.jpg
https://i1.wp.com/www.f1fanatic.co.uk/w ... LE0965.jpg
The angling of the leading edge (when viewed from the front) was more common and visible in the 2002-2009 era AFAIR but couldnt find good enough pics.

I understand teams have approached this area with considerable investment in the past.

However doubling the available radii hardly means doubling the investment. In fact this will be a high spending area.

I expect most teams to more than 4X the spending in this era (50mm era). Given the effectiveness of the W floor and it's ability to create a 50+mm leading edge in a 50mm max spec formula, no teams will be giving away any advantage on the floors leading edge.

I havent seen this kind of floor design yet. If the image doesn't lie then the floor has 2 levels there. Very interesting. Can't wait to see what other teams have come up with in that area.

[tomazy]

That is an optical illusion. The 2nd level where the point is pointing is not part of the floor. It is the radius that connetcs the sidepods with the floor nothing more. At least this is what I think it is.

[F1ern]

That is an optical illusion. The 2nd level where the point is pointing is not part of the floor. It is the radius that connetcs the sidepods with the floor nothing more. At least this is what I think it is.

I think the same. The black stuff where the yellow arrow points is the sidepod's bottom black lined part where it connects to the floor.

[Formula Wrong]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C44fvzOVcAA_Psk.jpg

I think you missed the bottom part of the fin of the 2017 car? (at least it's not colored blue)

[ClarkBT11]

That is an optical illusion. The 2nd level where the point is pointing is not part of the floor. It is the radius that connetcs the sidepods with the floor nothing more. At least this is what I think it is.

I think the same. The black stuff where the yellow arrow points is the sidepod's bottom black lined part where it connects to the floor.

The yellow arrow is pointing past the area your both describing. The leading edge of the floor is raised up to were the red line is and then drops down vertically forming a channel towards the diffuser.