BMW Sauber F1.09

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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:23 am

ringo wrote:looks like the same damn front wing, and they said it was new :roll:
It still looks to draggy compared to that of FI and Williams, sometimes I wonder if BMW sauber know what they are doing.


I registered on this forum just to reply to this post...I mean you wonder what BMW sauber are doing????????????????????????????????? hahahaha...yea ofcourse....I mean I think you should apply for TD...because in your head you got a full scale windtunnel and Albert3.....
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 9:42 am

LotusF1 wrote:
ringo wrote:looks like the same damn front wing, and they said it was new :roll:
It still looks to draggy compared to that of FI and Williams, sometimes I wonder if BMW sauber know what they are doing.


I registered on this forum just to reply to this post...I mean you wonder what BMW sauber are doing????????????????????????????????? hahahaha...yea ofcourse....I mean I think you should apply for TD...because in your head you got a full scale windtunnel and Albert3.....


LotusF1,
Welcome to the forum (are you Mike Gascoyne?) Everyone here makes comments on the cars, its just opinion, none of us can ever be sure.
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:08 am

scarbs wrote:
LotusF1 wrote:
ringo wrote:looks like the same damn front wing, and they said it was new :roll:
It still looks to draggy compared to that of FI and Williams, sometimes I wonder if BMW sauber know what they are doing.


I registered on this forum just to reply to this post...I mean you wonder what BMW sauber are doing????????????????????????????????? hahahaha...yea ofcourse....I mean I think you should apply for TD...because in your head you got a full scale windtunnel and Albert3.....


LotusF1,
Welcome to the forum (are you Mike Gascoyne?) Everyone here makes comments on the cars, its just opinion, none of us can ever be sure.


I was only joking...didnt want to offend anyone, its just that how can you say a wing is draggy by a pic??? Kinda hard dont u think??? Personal opinions are welcome, but jeez...this one made me laugh (dont want to seem arrogant)
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:18 am

LotusF1,
I wasn’t having a dig, You’re right you can’t tell from a pic, but guessing is all part of the fun.

But are you MG? lol
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:59 am

scarbs wrote:LotusF1,
I wasn’t having a dig, You’re right you can’t tell from a pic, but guessing is all part of the fun.

But are you MG? lol


LOL...no no...unfortunately I am not...
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 11:38 am

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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:17 pm

zgred wrote:Image



return of complexly designed (though clever) front wing for BMW Sauber :shock:
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:28 pm

raceman wrote:
zgred wrote:Image



return of complexly designed (though clever) front wing for BMW Sauber :shock:


it's about time they got rid of their stupid snow-plow design!
The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks.
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:12 pm

LotusF1 wrote:
scarbs wrote:LotusF1,
I wasn’t having a dig, You’re right you can’t tell from a pic, but guessing is all part of the fun.

But are you MG? lol


LOL...no no...unfortunately I am not...



that sounds like something MG would say...
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:47 pm

djos wrote:it's about time they got rid of their stupid snow-plow design!

Snow-plow? That'd clear some things up. I've always thought it was a bird feeder of some sort, placed there to promote the new, 'ecological' F1. It's a pity they replaced it :(
Let's just hope Kubica won't have his brand new front wing 'pimped', like he had on Spa or Monza..
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Post Thu Oct 01, 2009 3:48 pm

LotusF1 wrote:
LotusF1 wrote:
ringo wrote:looks like the same damn front wing, and they said it was new :roll:
It still looks to draggy compared to that of FI and Williams, sometimes I wonder if BMW sauber know what they are doing.


I registered on this forum just to reply to this post...I mean you wonder what BMW sauber are doing????????????????????????????????? hahahaha...yea ofcourse....I mean I think you should apply for TD...because in your head you got a full scale windtunnel and Albert3.....


I was only joking...didnt want to offend anyone, its just that how can you say a wing is draggy by a pic??? Kinda hard dont u think??? Personal opinions are welcome, but jeez...this one made me laugh (dont want to seem arrogant)


If it looks like a parachute, then its pretty easy to say that it is probly quite "draggy"
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Post Fri Oct 02, 2009 5:15 pm

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Post Sat Oct 03, 2009 9:00 am

I wish they would have gone more radical with the diffuser.


But you can clearly see how hard it is to accommodate a big size ddd on a car. The crash structure has totally changed. It's now swooping up more like Brawn or RedBull. This shows why this has taken so long. They needed a new gearbox casing, eventually new gearbox internals, at least new crash tests.

It's a shame how this year was more about clever rule interpretation than good engineering (OK, you can classify rule interpretation also as some kind of engineering but I hope you know what I mean).


Does anybody know what that boy thing to the right of the crash structure is?
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Post Sat Oct 03, 2009 12:38 pm

kNt wrote:Does anybody know what that boy thing to the right of the crash structure is?

Hook for the rear jack.
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Post Sat Oct 10, 2009 9:53 am

Scarbs pointed out an interesting detail of the new rearwing in his tech article: Only the inlet is restricted to the central 15cm, the exit of the whole spans the whole width.
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