Scuderia Toro Rosso STR5 Ferrari

[imightbewrong]

What does the retarded engine feature do?

Keep air flowing when not on the throttle or something?

Exactly

[zgred]

[spinmastermic]

Coolest F-Duct ever. It has a retro airbox look to it.

[Goran2812]

is it effective? there's probably little air going into it because it is positioned behind the air box...

[zgred]

[forty-two]

Kinda looks like this engineer misunderstood when he was told to arrange something to "blow" the rear wing!

Haha, sorry for being off topic, but that made me smile!

[forty-two]

I can't help but wonder why STR are still pursuing the F-Duct given that it's banned for next season, there's only two races left, and at my last count, they arent in the running for winning the WCC?

Seems like a huge expense for only very limited gains at this stage of the season to me.

[Paul]

I think McLaren have opened a Pandora Box with the f-duct and that sort of flow manipulations will be one of the key development areas in years to come. So understanding the concept now will still prove beneficial.

[forty-two]

Yes, that is a very good point Paul.

I actually have a theory that the device on the McLaren might actually somehow still be present next season because of the way in which theirs and I believe theirs alone has been implemented.

[Belatti]

I can't help but wonder why STR are still pursuing the F-Duct given that it's banned for next season, there's only two races left, and at my last count, they arent in the running for winning the WCC?

Seems like a huge expense for only very limited gains at this stage of the season to me.

Can be Adrian´s playground...

[gilgen]

I can't help but wonder why STR are still pursuing the F-Duct given that it's banned for next season, there's only two races left, and at my last count, they arent in the running for winning the WCC?

Seems like a huge expense for only very limited gains at this stage of the season to me.

Can be Adrian´s playground...

But surely Newey can not have ANY influence in STR?

[imightbewrong]

Yes, that is a very good point Paul.

I actually have a theory that the device on the McLaren might actually somehow still be present next season because of the way in which theirs and I believe theirs alone has been implemented.

Can you elaborate on that?

[lolzi]

Yes, that is a very good point Paul.

I actually have a theory that the device on the McLaren might actually somehow still be present next season because of the way in which theirs and I believe theirs alone has been implemented.

Could you elaborate? What do you think they are doing differently?

[ESPImperium]

Yes, that is a very good point Paul.

I actually have a theory that the device on the McLaren might actually somehow still be present next season because of the way in which theirs and I believe theirs alone has been implemented.

Could you elaborate? What do you think they are doing differently?

The F-Duct hasnt had the vote passed yet to ban it, and the fact the proximity wing may be actually a saftey issue means the F-Duct still has value.

If the Proximity wing idea fails, the F-Duct will be still used, but in a mechanichal form seemingly, to make sure the drivers hands are on the wheel. What id like to see is the proximity wing idea scrubbed, as i dont like the isea of it, but give the driver 20 seconds of F-Duct time each lap.

With the MES ECU this can be managed. Ideally id like to allow the drivers 20 seconds of F-Duct time and 10 seconds of KERS a lap, with a button on each side of the wheel, and 2 new displays added to the wheel, or more ideal, monocoque Red Bull/STR style for the drivers to see how many seconds they have left. At a later date, you could eventually manage how many times theese were activated, meaning you could have 10 activation laps for each per race.

Personally, id rather have a F-Duct than a proximity wing. Same way id rather have had kept the DDD, but reduced it to 120mm from 175mm and had a standardised centre profile in the F-Duct.

[lolzi]

Yes, that is a very good point Paul.

I actually have a theory that the device on the McLaren might actually somehow still be present next season because of the way in which theirs and I believe theirs alone has been implemented.

Could you elaborate? What do you think they are doing differently?

The F-Duct hasnt had the vote passed yet to ban it, and the fact the proximity wing may be actually a saftey issue means the F-Duct still has value.

If the Proximity wing idea fails, the F-Duct will be still used, but in a mechanichal form seemingly, to make sure the drivers hands are on the wheel. What id like to see is the proximity wing idea scrubbed, as i dont like the isea of it, but give the driver 20 seconds of F-Duct time each lap.

With the MES ECU this can be managed. Ideally id like to allow the drivers 20 seconds of F-Duct time and 10 seconds of KERS a lap, with a button on each side of the wheel, and 2 new displays added to the wheel, or more ideal, monocoque Red Bull/STR style for the drivers to see how many seconds they have left. At a later date, you could eventually manage how many times theese were activated, meaning you could have 10 activation laps for each per race.

Personally, id rather have a F-Duct than a proximity wing. Same way id rather have had kept the DDD, but reduced it to 120mm from 175mm and had a standardised centre profile in the F-Duct.

So you want to use the F-duct as another "proximity wing". But what I am most interested in is how McLaren's system differs from other F-ducts.