Red Bull RB7 Renault

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I think his parade lap was too agressive. He backed up the pack and did too many burn outs. His parade lap was very unussual and i think that may be to blame for the tyre failure. Exhaust definitely had a role to play with the tyre failure.

If not, then he just got a crappy pirelli. They seem to be 10 times more likely to have a dud in the batch than the bridgestone.
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So those turbine blades are needed only for brakes cooling exit?
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italian wrote:So those turbine blades are needed only for brakes cooling exit?
I think that their secret is in the suspension layout; I think heating tyres with exhausts is too dangerous and not very adjustable.
I think you should stop stabbing in the dark guessing at what makes the RB7 such a good car. The reality is probably simply that it's a little bit better in all departments.

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Sure it is about taking risks, but sure it is Pirelli's fault that teams go over the maximum described camber settings.

I cannot back this up in any way since I do not have the figures, set-ups nor telemetry of the teams but this was an story in Spa where mainly Red Bull ran over the maximum Camber settings that was declared safe by Pirelli. It surely cant be pirelli fault that they go over these limits?
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Mark Webber near the end of the Abu Dhabi race. AFAIK, the diagonal supporting strut for the tea-tray is a new feature.
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The support is in the Monza picture.

Here it looks like it has failed. It is not attached to the chassis.

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I don't think a new feature, it just conveniently broke.
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And what is your understanding about it being helpful to be broken?

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Webber had a damage floor in abudabi. Remember that piece that was hanging off that looked like a black plasic bag?
Mark also damage the floor even more on his final pitstop by running wide over the curbs.
This may explain the broken strut.
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ringo wrote:Webber had a damage floor in abudabi. Remember that piece that was hanging off that looked like a black plasic bag?
That wasn't part of his floor though. It was a piece of rubber that got stuck to it.
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ringo wrote:he just got a crappy pirelli. They seem to be 10 times more likely to have a dud in the batch than the bridgestone.
Evidence, or is this observer bias?

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hardingfv32 wrote:And what is your understanding about it being helpful to be broken?

Brian
I'm just joking since everyone believe RB have a flexing floor which helps them out.
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richard_leeds wrote:
ringo wrote:he just got a crappy pirelli. They seem to be 10 times more likely to have a dud in the batch than the bridgestone.
Evidence, or is this observer bias?
How's 3 unforced punctures in 2 weekends sound?
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Reasoning absent of evidence = logic fail.

If you find a burned up tree in a forest surrounded by untouched ones, do you assume the tree was faulty and went up on it's own, or do you assume the cause may not be present any longer - maybe lightning struck it?

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ringo wrote:
richard_leeds wrote:
ringo wrote:he just got a crappy pirelli. They seem to be 10 times more likely to have a dud in the batch than the bridgestone.
Evidence, or is this observer bias?
How's 3 unforced punctures in 2 weekends sound?
Like an anecdote. If you don't get that your sample is too small, you clearly have no clue about statistics.