2012 British GP - Silverstone Circuit

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Post Wed Jul 11, 2012 11:41 pm

strad wrote:@FrukostScones
Massa should leave Ferrari and go somewhere else

Yes..somewhere far far from F1...Maybe scooter rentals in Sao Paulo


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Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:12 am

" I assume for Massa they don't have a strategy at all,"

Seriously?? That's just not true. The only reason Massa is in the position he is in, is due to his lack of performance till recently. Simple as that.
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Post Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:38 am

Ferrari have actually significantly improved on their race strategies this year compared to the last 2-3 seasons when they always seemed to make the worst possible strategic decisions on every single race. They're not perfect yet, perfect defined as the Brawn-Schumacher era strategies, but they seem to be doing a much better job than, say, McLaren this year. They take gambles which do not always pay off, such as in Canada and Silverstone, but this is exactly what you need to do to challenge for a win when you don't have the best car on the grid. However, to take such risks you need to be able to rely on your driver, and Alonso fulfills this role race after race. Even when "playing it safe", you need to know that the driver can deliver. Until Monaco, unfortunately, Massa didn't seem able to deliver bottles of milk driving a electric van at 20mph, let alone a race performance that would allow any strategy to work. With a DNF in Australia, 15th place in Malaysia, 13th place in China, 9th in Bahrain and 15th in Spain, where Alonso was already fighting fair and square for 1st place, Massa defined his role within the team as a race day test driver, only achieving the absolute opposite of what Alonso was doing: he made the car look even worse than it was!
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Post Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:47 pm

andartop wrote:... but they seem to be doing a much better job than, say, McLaren this year. .....


Everyone is doing that :D


Mclaren missed a huge chance at the early races and now I see their changes really low to win the championship. They better bring a huge upgrade that works for the coming race. Especially Button's season is done in my opinion.
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Post Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:23 am

I wonder if Massa did a Piquet spin in the quali?

I'd love to see his data traces and driver input etc, on that straight when he spun.
Minutes after Alonso complained and said they had to red flag the session due to puddles.

Of course he also happened to be in 15th-16th place with no chance of getting into Q3 since they
choose the wrong tires to start the session on.

This is in no way an accusation.
I mention it since it seem to be a remarkable coincidence that everything happened so perfect for Ferrari.

It would be good if FIA looked at the situation in depth and cleared Ferrari so any speculation can end.
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Post Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:01 am

Anyone else see the Sky F1 HD pre race intro for the Silverstone GP?


I must say I thoroughly enjoyed it, the music fits perfectly with the track, wet weather etc....not bad at all!!!


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Post Sun Jul 22, 2012 3:36 pm

That looks like 3D.
"I was blessed with the ability to understand how cars move," he explains. "You know how in 'The Matrix,' he can see the matrix? When I'm driving, I see the lines."
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