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Lewis Hamilton has won the second Grand Prix of 2014 by dominating the Malaysian Grand Prix. His Mercedes team mate Nico Rosberg ran the entire race in second place, fending off Sebastian Vettel who completes the podium.
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More stops should mean less consumption, and less stops more consumption. But I get what you mean, yes.iotar__ wrote:Another total dominance by Mercedes and boring race, coin toss deciding which driver.
[Speaking of which, I wonder if it's easier in 2014 to apply silent team orders through some decimal place rounding of fuel consumption strategy. "Sensors showed we would have exceeded fuel flow, sorry Mark Webber switch to plan B34delta", or "you didn't lift and coast enough
Williams is the most interesting team to watch in Malaysia, main candidate to fill the big gap behind Merc. Depending on qualifying and whether they have tyre/warming issues. Tyres, weather and not representative track held them back in Melbourne. I don't believe in varying tyre strategies from top 10, 1. not enough deg 2. fuel dictates them. In Bahrain from memory (P. Symonds): three stops would have been faster but worse on fuel so they went with two?
I'd have thought more stops was more fuel (time spent stationary/accelerating from a standstill), but maybe that's outweighed by the time spent on the speed limiter...raymondu999 wrote: More stops should mean less consumption, and less stops more consumption. But I get what you mean, yes.
Hopefully, but was reliability the reason? The thing that bothered me about Melbourne (without joking) was that four different teams with three different engines and speed (Hulk, Alonso, Button, Vergne, Raikkonen) were racing at the same, pedestrian pace during middle period of the race. After pitstop there was some action: Alonso and of course Button/Bottas jumped.Klaus wrote:I'd have thought more stops was more fuel (time spent stationary/accelerating from a standstill), but maybe that's outweighed by the time spent on the speed limiter...raymondu999 wrote: More stops should mean less consumption, and less stops more consumption. But I get what you mean, yes.
Anyway, I'm actually expecting a more entertaining race as more teams will have the confidence that their car will reach the flag, so will let the drivers push a bit more. I think Mercedes will still walk away with the trophy though.
Free practice could be interesting again with so many teams still suffering problems, I want to see if Lotus have genuinely turned the corner, or if they just got lucky yesterday...
You are missing, that Malaysia is still a very selective track when it comes to downforce. This is shown by the results of the last years...always cars with rather lop topspeed were good.univex wrote:Red Bull to be dominant in Sector 2 and then get totally cleaned up on the straights.
I do not think so. He lost one cylinder. This probably comes from an injector or spark plug problem, which can be easily solved. I do not see a sensor which shuts down a cylinder...Phil wrote:Anyone else concerned that the problems Hamilton suffered in Australia might carry over to Sepang as well? I have a bad feeling... 5 engines for the year and misfires in Australia.... I really hope they find the cause (without losing the engine).
I´d have to disagree a tiny bit.basti313 wrote:Also the straights are not very good for overtaking...they are long, but the first one follows to fast corners and the hairpin is a mess to overtake, cause it supports no alternative line: If you are too close you will not get it right and if you pass your opponent right before it your line is so bad that you can get no power down for the straight.
Add in the fact that the Pirellis are losing less marbles this year and you have the chance to actually move away from the line.SectorOne wrote:I´d have to disagree a tiny bit.basti313 wrote:Also the straights are not very good for overtaking...they are long, but the first one follows to fast corners and the hairpin is a mess to overtake, cause it supports no alternative line: If you are too close you will not get it right and if you pass your opponent right before it your line is so bad that you can get no power down for the straight.
If we connect the two main straights you can see that the first and last corner are brilliantly designed for multiple lines through them.
The hairpin between them is also a place where we always see the classical undercut.
Frankly that whole piece of straights and corners have provided some pretty awesome side by side action.
it's not about the pitstop itself. It's about worn tyres carrying less apex speed and needing more exit acceleration. Also with more grip you have less wheelspin - meaning more of the fuel burn goes into acceleration and less into spinning the tyresKlaus wrote:I'd have thought more stops was more fuel (time spent stationary/accelerating from a standstill), but maybe that's outweighed by the time spent on the speed limiter...raymondu999 wrote: More stops should mean less consumption, and less stops more consumption. But I get what you mean, yes.
I totally agree with the first and second corner. But in these you need downforce and tires to overtake. This was my point: No advantage in downforce or tires, no overtaking on the straights either.SectorOne wrote:I´d have to disagree a tiny bit.basti313 wrote:Also the straights are not very good for overtaking...they are long, but the first one follows to fast corners and the hairpin is a mess to overtake, cause it supports no alternative line: If you are too close you will not get it right and if you pass your opponent right before it your line is so bad that you can get no power down for the straight.
If we connect the two main straights you can see that the first and last corner are brilliantly designed for multiple lines through them.
The hairpin between them is also a place where we always see the classical undercut.
Frankly that whole piece of straights and corners have provided some pretty awesome side by side action.
This would be very good. Rosberg tried different lines last year through the fast corners before the first straight, but didn't succeed. Maybe also due to marbles...CBeck113 wrote:Add in the fact that the Pirellis are losing less marbles this year and you have the chance to actually move away from the line.SectorOne wrote:...basti313 wrote:Also the straights are not very good for overtaking...they are long, but the first one follows to fast corners and the hairpin is a mess to overtake, cause it supports no alternative line: If you are too close you will not get it right and if you pass your opponent right before it your line is so bad that you can get no power down for the straight.
The hairpin between them is also a place where we always see the classical undercut.
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The problem with a pit stop is, that with an extra pit stop you have to gain about 30sec on the track, because this is the time you loose due to the extra pit stop. This extra pace burns much more fuel than the better tires can safe.raymondu999 wrote:it's not about the pitstop itself. It's about worn tyres carrying less apex speed and needing more exit acceleration. Also with more grip you have less wheelspin - meaning more of the fuel burn goes into acceleration and less into spinning the tyresKlaus wrote:I'd have thought more stops was more fuel (time spent stationary/accelerating from a standstill), but maybe that's outweighed by the time spent on the speed limiter...raymondu999 wrote: More stops should mean less consumption, and less stops more consumption. But I get what you mean, yes.