2014 Hungarian Grand Prix - Hungaroring

[SectorOne]

Lap 39 when Hamilton pitted they guessed the best way to go would be brand new mediums and go to the end.
Pretty simply really. That's not to say it was a good call.

But that´s the thing, Mediums gave no indication whatsoever that they would last longer.

[ringo]

Well, it's not like it's a first time for lewis to ignore a team order and put himself above the team, is it? khmmm hungary 2007 khm khmmm..

Well, as i said, that's what separates the Alonsos and Hamiltons from the Barrichellos and Massas.

Even Massa has grown some spine in that regard!

[Waywardism]

Lap 39 when Hamilton pitted they guessed the best way to go would be brand new mediums and go to the end.
Pretty simply really. That's not to say it was a good call.

But that´s the thing, Mediums gave no indication whatsoever that they would last longer.

Doesn't the harder tyre always last a bit longer?

[Andres125sx]

Lap 39 when Hamilton pitted they guessed the best way to go would be brand new mediums and go to the end.
Pretty simply really. That's not to say it was a good call.

But that´s the thing, Mediums gave no indication whatsoever that they would last longer.

That´s not what DeLaRosa said, one second slower but they last much longer

And they´re one second quicker when they´re new, once they have some laps (maybe 10 ) difference must be much less if any. I guess that must be the reasoning

[SectorOne]

That´s not what DeLaRosa said, one second slower but they last much longer

Who made the longest stint and with what compound?

[Andres125sx]

That´s not what DeLaRosa said, one second slower but they last much longer

Who made the longest stint and with what compound?

Does that mean anything?

Teams assume risks, sometimes they get it right, sometimes they dont, so you can´t assume if someone did it it was the best strategy



Anycase, it was Chilton, softs for 37 laps... and he finished the last one

Edit: ups sorry, it was Kvyat with mediums for 39 laps

[SectorOne]

Does that mean anything?

Yes if the Top 5 longest stints was on Soft then it´s safe to say Mediums never gave any indication of being the best long run tire.

Anycase, it was Chilton, softs for 37 laps... and he finished the last one

Thanks. Edit: Nice Kvyat on 39 laps. Thanks again.

Also Bottas and Massa. I know Massa ran Medium twice but did Bottas do the same? He ran all softs right?
Bottas middle stint was 14 laps longer then Massa on Mediums. Again don´t know if Bottas had Mediums or not.

[Andres125sx]

Edit: ups sorry, it was Kvyat with mediums for 39 laps

[SectorOne]

Saw it. But i´m not flash gordon.

[Andres125sx]

[Waywardism]

That´s not what DeLaRosa said, one second slower but they last much longer

Who made the longest stint and with what compound?

It doesn't matter what the reality is because we only know that with hindsight. You're questioning why Mercedes put Hamilton on primes so all that matters is what Mercedes believed at the time and what the current situation was.

We know Rosberg had 38 laps to do when he pitted for softs and Hamilton had 31 to do when he pitted for mediums. We also know from the radio messages we heard during the race that they intended for Rosberg to pit again and for Hamilton to go to the end. We can only assume that they thought the mediums would do 31 laps quicker than using softs and pitting again.

[SectorOne]

It doesn't matter what the reality is because we only know that with hindsight.

Not really because the teams have teams checking the competitors and how long they have gone on their stints.
So when we look at the info we can use what´s available up to Hamilton´s stop.

[Andres125sx]

Does that mean anything?

Yes if the Top 5 longest stints was on Soft then it´s safe to say Mediums never gave any indication of being the best long run tire.

Anycase the indications come from FP1, FP2 and FP3, that´s the reason Dela Rosa said that, they knew they last longer

Then in race, as Waywardism said, they only knew there was 31-32 laps remaining and they had to make a choice. Assuming softs will last that long is a posibility, but usually not the fastest so it´s only those who have the position (Alonso) who can take that risk and try to defend the position.

Since Hamilton needed to overtake, that was not an option for him. Then he only had two choices, mediums for the remaining 31 laps, or softs for two more stints.

Hamilton chose the first, and Rosberg the second. I don´t see anything weird there

http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/07/27/2 ... pit-stops/

[Waywardism]

It doesn't matter what the reality is because we only know that with hindsight.

Not really because the teams have teams checking the competitors and how long they have gone on their stints.
So when we look at the info we can use what´s available up to Hamilton´s stop.

Usually yes but this race started in the wet and we had 2 safety cars which kinda screws that up.

[F1NAC]

I don't know if anyone mentioned but Alonso did 31 laps on USED soft tyres pretty amazing =D>