2016 Grand Prix of Abu Dhabi - Yas Marina, 25-27 November

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dans79 wrote:
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godlameroso wrote:Any takers on pole time?

I'm guessing a 1:39.5 ish.
Conservative estimate, given the ultra soft tire available. But we did have kind of an underwhelming pole laptimes lately, especially compared to the massive improvements in the early part of the season. It seems the ultimate pace has cooled off a bit, whatever the reasons might be.
teams switching to 2017 testing mode.
When Pirreli put the minimum tyre pressures up, didn't that affect the pole times?

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If it did, it seems like it made them faster if anything.
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It might, however it also might cause them to wear out (much) faster, and then setting a time becomes much more critical to do so perfectly, in other words; you'll only get 1 chance on the tires, and that means any other driver on the road, or the tiniest mistake might cost you dearly as you won't have the ability to try another run because of the tire wear.

ps, this is an assumption.
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godlameroso wrote:If it did, it seems like it made them faster if anything.
If it made them faster why do teams want to have the lowest setting of pressure . The teams would have more than minimum pressure in the tyres at every race if it made them faster....

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WaikeCU wrote:I guess there's two different races Lewis can drive:
1) Do his best as he can and hope Nico doesn't end up on the podium
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2) Win as slow as he can

Option 1: To do his best as possible and totally dominate the race, but then you have to hope Nico somehow doesn't end up on the podium.

Option 2: Drive slower in front to bunch Nico into the cars behind and hope Red Bulls or Ferrari's can attempt an overtake. Sort of taking Nico out of the comfort zone. When Nico is put under pressure, then he'll maybe make a mistake.
I'd expect Mercedes to cover this off pre-race with a talk in a window-less backroom to make sure no dirty tricks will be played to influence the championship. I would.

Besides, if you did that, then I'd expect all gloves to be off and Rosberg (and his side of the garage) to play dirty too and attempt to undercut him for a lead. So... expect a boring race.
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ClarkBT11 wrote:
godlameroso wrote:If it did, it seems like it made them faster if anything.
If it made them faster why do teams want to have the lowest setting of pressure . The teams would have more than minimum pressure in the tyres at every race if it made them faster....
Gotta agree with Clark here.

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ClarkBT11 wrote:
godlameroso wrote:If it did, it seems like it made them faster if anything.
If it made them faster why do teams want to have the lowest setting of pressure . The teams would have more than minimum pressure in the tyres at every race if it made them faster....
read my assumption above.
also, lower tyre pressure equals lower ride height.
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Manoah2u wrote:
ClarkBT11 wrote:
godlameroso wrote:If it did, it seems like it made them faster if anything.
If it made them faster why do teams want to have the lowest setting of pressure . The teams would have more than minimum pressure in the tyres at every race if it made them faster....
read my assumption above.
also, lower tyre pressure equals lower ride height.
The teams can't generate the heat in the tyres when they're pumped up like balloons. Some take two out laps before going for a quick lap. If they get screwed by traffic on that lap or make a mistake they've missed the window for the maximum lap time/grip out of those specific tyres.

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I'm not saying it's exactly the case but it is curious that despite hard as rock tires qualifying records were being smashed left and right until it petered out later on in the year.

Like I said it could be the step softer compounds, or that teams improved a lot from the start to the end of 2016 magnifying the difference. Perhaps the difference from end of 2015 to now isn't that great, mostly to do with engine and chassis performance and not so much huge aero developments.
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Anybody know the weather forecast? 8)
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Hope it rains. Heck the chance of rain might as well be the same chance of Hamilton winning and Rosberg coming 4th.
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I said in the Brazil thread, probably dry as a bone, of course only if that wasn't a rhetorical question. If it was then carry on, I know I'm lame.
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Although AD has sprinklers, random rain?
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Rosberg's engine blowing up would be quite entertaining....

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The_table wrote:Rosberg's engine blowing up would be quite entertaining....
I would love to see that, as it would be poetic justice considering Malaysia. I think I'd enjoy reading the irate ramblings of the anti-Hamilton brigade here more than Lewis actually winning.
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