Nah,Sieper wrote: ↑04 Oct 2017, 15:01Aren't part of Vettel's penalty points older then a year now so he could have received a penalty without an automatic race-ban again?
To me no penalty was needed for the accident itself, most of the blame is on Vettel imho but both moved towards eachother. The fact he took his steering wheel was really strange. For that at least an acknowledgement that that is not OK could be made. But apparently an official complaint would have to be registered for that? By any of the other teams? Sauber !
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/13215 ... -collision
If he'd left it on the seat the same rule would still be broken, as it stipulates the wheel must be attached.When asked by Autosport why he took the wheel with him, Vettel replied: "It was a sort of reflex.
"I saw Pascal was stopped and I couldn't get the steering wheel back on because the steering column was completely turned.
"Obviously the car was damaged. I put it in the seat, and it was reflex - sometimes they open the track to spectators, so I thought that's the only loose bit.
"Because I couldn't put it on I thought I might as well take it with me just to make sure.
"You don't want to lose a steering wheel. Was it necessary? Probably not."
This was made live during the SkyF1 show after the race. I think under popular demand they placed it on their website. But technically this is footage which was already released.hemichromis wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 12:46That really does change things, the crash cannot be seen as predominantly Stroll's fault so the stewards made the right call.
Why did it take 4 days to release that footage?
So the forums don't get boring....hemichromis wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 12:46That really does change things, the crash cannot be seen as predominantly Stroll's fault so the stewards made the right call.
Why did it take 4 days to release that footage?
I would still say its Vettels fault, he comes from the outside of the corner and steers to the inside of the corner, where Stroll is. The race is over, and its the cool down lap, so you cant expect Stroll to be aware of Vettel suddenly being on his side. And its not the first time this season we've seen this kind of brain fart from Vettelturbof1 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 13:00Just going from the footage, Stroll keeps the steering lock in the same position all the time (except for the split second before the collission, where he tried to turn away). The corner at the point goes sharper to the left.
The reason why Stroll is keeping his particular radiusing and does not follow the corner, is because his trajectory is the pickup line. It follows parallel to the race line.
You make out of this what you want. If we apply racing rules here, Seb is at fault. Only, this was not a race. I think both should have been more aware of their surroundings. For that both should have gotten a penalty as they let their attention slip too much. I think taking no action is also fair, however. Just that it does not send a message to the other drivers to remain focussed until the car is effectively parked. Seb afterwards got a ride from Wehrlein. Can you imagine if the exact same accident happened a few corners afterwards with Seb's leg dangling on the sidepod?
ChrisDanger wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 11:07Sky has released Stroll's onboard of the post-race crash with Vettel.
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... h-released
I think they need Vet to stop talking on team radio though.turbof1 wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 13:00Just going from the footage, Stroll keeps the steering lock in the same position all the time (except for the split second before the collission, where he tried to turn away). The corner at the point goes sharper to the left.
The reason why Stroll is keeping his particular radiusing and does not follow the corner, is because his trajectory is the pickup line. It follows parallel to the race line.
You make out of this what you want. If we apply racing rules here, Seb is at fault. Only, this was not a race. I think both should have been more aware of their surroundings. For that both should have gotten a penalty as they let their attention slip too much. I think taking no action is also fair, however. Just that it does not send a message to the other drivers to remain focussed until the car is effectively parked. Seb afterwards got a ride from Wehrlein. Can you imagine if the exact same accident happened a few corners afterwards with Seb's leg dangling on the sidepod?
He did. He came from behind and drove in to the side of stroll. Then had the cheek to blame Stroll, like he had the cheek to blame Lewis in Baku. Its taken years but we can all see Vettel for the driver he is now. Video shows that exactly. Im sure there will still be a mass of Vettel fans trying to tell me why its strolls fault, just dont waste your time guys.Shrieker wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 13:31ChrisDanger wrote: ↑05 Oct 2017, 11:07Sky has released Stroll's onboard of the post-race crash with Vettel.
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/ ... h-released
Hmmmmm. That changes things a little bit. From Lance's on board it surely looks like Vettel came from behind like a lunatic and side swiped him