donskar wrote:OK. I think I get it now: 80 HP is of "no consequence." Got it.
80 Hp, for a few seconds in non-traction limited zones of track, but before you reach high aero-drag zones of track. Yes, compared to aero-efficiency, high speed cornering downforce, and low to mid speed corner exit traction ... of no consequence, of no significance.
On hards, Hamilton was catching Vettel, doing faster laps, lap after lap, till he arrived behind Vettel, when he would do the same laptimes ... did you spot that on your 'pretty good HDTV' ... what does that say about relative pace. Go on, we all know the answer, you can say it. It means that if Vettel was a speculative coupla tenths KERS faster, Hamilton who was consistently a good half a second faster in the numerous chasedowns, would have matched any fantasy Vettel KERS time and still had extra time left unusable. Are you sure you really do get it?
donskar wrote:Do NOT presume to speak for me;
You said it was unprecedented, was that you presuming to speak for me?
And no-one does cares about precedent, not in F1, they only (or should only) care if DRS works or not.
We are not going to keep broken, not fit for purpose, dirty air, aero regs for old times sake, and we are not going to reject new aero fixes, solely because they are new. Essentially, what I am saying, is that 'precedent' can lick my sweaty yam-bag.
I like the bold, was that you shouting and stomping your little feet when you typed it.
donskar wrote:Decades? "Never has been?" Well, if you go back only a couple decades you can at least ...
Yes exactly, decades, plural, couple, a few, lots ... that is what I said. Wings sprouted in the very late 60s, got fat in the 70s. The Mid 80s is almost thirty years ago, that's decades, lots of em. There was only a thin slice of proto-quasi-F1 where they were not actively thinking about aero ... and even then cars were overpowered and understicky, emphasising again the ultimately secondary nature of power.
Aero is 80 to 90% of laptime, and has been that way for lots of decades. Power became secondary or probably tertiary a long, long, long time ago. That's why I said decades, that's why I said never has been.
Look we get it ... It was OK for you to post your manifesto, in pedestrian bullet point detail, but when someone reasonably offers-up a counter view, they are subjected to this sort of condescending nonsense. (Douche chills galore when you later re-read your post, and the butt-hurt tone employed, I guarantee it).
You said something, I disagreed, get over it. You then got a bit ill-mannered, and I just right-now had to put you straight. Why not leave it at that, you've had two says, I've had two says, go on prove to all the boys and girls watching, the audience that in your mind you think you are now playing to, that you're not just yet another last word freak, and that you are psychologically self-actualised enough just to let it go. It's what the grown-ups do.