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Post Sun Apr 15, 2012 11:24 am

Yeah, there's a certain amount of radii your allowed. I can't remember how much though 20mm/25mm or something like that.
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Post Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:08 pm

The thing I find funny is that people are telling me what's on MY floor like I've never seen it before. :roll:
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Post Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:21 pm

The radii is 50mm for the step plane and 25mm for the reference plane. The floor does count as bodywork because article 3.12 states that bodywork facing the ground must lie on either the step plane or the reference plane (3.12.4 details the radii), and 3.12.10 is the rule which bans cutouts or holes in the floor

Scarbs explains the rule here under ban on ddd's and ebd's, as i dont feel im doing a very good job of explaining why it is illegal
http://scarbsf1.wordpress.com/2010/12/13/f1-2011-technical-regulations-detailed-and-explained/
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Post Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:09 pm

I understand 3.12.10 but don't see what's wrong. There's no intersection?
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Post Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:26 pm

This floor setup is ILLEGAL.

The problem is, as LegendaryM has said, if you intersect longitudinally or laterally, there must be one continuous line.


I will now prove that with this floor, this is definitely not the case.

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The floor has a similar shape to yours. The red line shows an intersection on a longitudinal line. There are two lines, not one continous line, rendering the floor illegal.

As legendaryM said, this was legal back in 2009, when the Mclaren had it, but was banned in 2011 as part of the clampdown on DDD's.
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Post Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:57 am

just remove the little bit in front of the tyre and make the cutout less deep and it will be legal again
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Post Thu Apr 19, 2012 7:29 am

That wouldn't get more air under the floor though would it? This cutout is supposed to act like a slot gap I think. Without the bit ahead of the tire it not longer performs that role IMO.
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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Post Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:26 pm

Tozza, how do Sauber and Red Bull get away with their floor slots?
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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Post Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:38 pm

MIKEY_! wrote:Tozza, how do Sauber and Red Bull get away with their floor slots?


You're allowed holes in the very outer side of the floor.
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Post Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:32 am

Oh so it's a hole, that makes sense. Ok all understood now.
I've found a way of ducting exhaust right to the diffuser edge like in 2011 and created a new wheel fastener that could allow sub 2 second pitstops see them here --> My 2013 F1 Concept Project
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Post Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:06 pm

MIKEY_! wrote:Tozza, how do Sauber and Red Bull get away with their floor slots?


When viewed from beneath, it is one continous line, in both longitudinal and lateral planes.

If this ruling were to included vertical planes, they'd ban the slots.
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Post Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:33 pm

Work on 2013 car has begun. Expect something, pretty decent. :D
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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:01 pm

Okay guys. First of all, here is MY first ever render of an F1 car so spare the bad comments please. It is Bahrain-spec, however I look to upload my innovative new 2013 tub soon too. Well at least I hope it's innovative, but that's for you guys to decide. :D

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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:06 pm

Right. The tub: There is a hole in the front where air will be fed from the nose through the top and out through the duct. Tell me what you think guys? :D

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Post Wed May 02, 2012 9:20 pm

This is the whole beauty rendered! What do you think? :)

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