xDama wrote:Trocola wrote:xDama wrote:Fact of the matter is that HRT is still in exactly the same -poor- place as they did, 2 years ago.
So you can say that their progress in 2 years has been absolutely none. The only real thing they do the last 3 seasons, is driving in the way of faster drivers.
You can say exactly the same about Mercedes AMG... expending 5 times the money HRT has
We all know that HRT is not going to win the WCC. But, for this year, they seem to have a better approach than just do laps. They have a good driver, they have a base... it seems that they are taking the right steps, and that's why I wish them a good season and I become a fan of them.
About the car, with nearly 3 weeks until China, i hope they can start solving all the issues with the car. Pedro said he had a problem with the fuel pump. They will be able to solve those small issues with the car and do a proper GP friday, working on setup, not just doing laps to understand the car.
With the big difference that Mercedes is scoring points (until now not much, but they'll surely score enough points this year) and that it's a team that adds value to the grid.
I'm very sorry for HRT, but after 3 years they are still the same unprofessional, random team that they were when entering in 2010. I gave them credit in 2010 and was eventually quite impressed with what they 'did' that year. I thought it would be better in 2011 and things improved a tiny bit.
But failing to join the winter-testing, assembling a car in time for the first GP-practise, and barely getting within 107% in qualif this year... Nah, I've kinda had it with this team. If it were a completely new car, I'd give it some credit, but if you look at the 2012 it's, 99% the same from the 2011-car.
And the fact that they even gave Karthikeyan (imo top 5 of the worst drivers in recent years) ANOTHER season F1, due to all of his money, is beyond me.
ESPImperium wrote:^^^ Very well put!
Do HRT deserve to be in F1, yes. Are they un professional, No.
F1 needs small teams, how many of the major team principles or top aero/mech engineers have come from a smaller team? Newey started at March, Brawn at March as well, Aldo Costa started at Minardi and thats just for starters.
Small teams need time to grow. 2010 they were stillborn, last year they were just about the same. This year they have just about made it, albeit a week or two late dute to a test failure, whitch can happen at that level. Ferrari even failed a crash test this year.
This year thay are a 80% new team, they will get experience, but it will take time. Peter Sauber knows how tough it is to set up outside the Oxford and Modena clusters, Toyota almost succeeded in breaking out that mould. They are doint things differently, and all the power to them.
A new team should always be judged after 5 years, as thats how long it takes to get staff and contractors that have been over the course a few times and can trust in the team without much worry.
HRT always said dont judge us untill 2014-2015 at the earliest under this management. Under the previous one they said 2013, and Capmos said whenever we have set ourselvs up and have the staff and experteese. He floated the "F1 Kit Car" idea in a press conference to much amusement of media folks, and in 2010 under a different name they were second from last in the constructors table.
F1 needs a under dog as one day, someone from that team may be the next big F1 Technichal Director or Team Principle.
charan0790 wrote:22 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth 1’45.909 5.187 52
23 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth 1’46.244 5.522 54
guess he ain't that slow.
Jack Malone wrote:That´s my opinion, i wont change it!
Let´s discuss REAL cars
PS: It´s not because I don´t write a lot that I don´t read or have a (great!) opinion...
tenali wrote:is it true that hrt have a lighter version of their car coming in for barcelona???
http://www.f1rules.com/f1-spanish-hrt-f ... n-germany/
wesley123 wrote:dice782 wrote:with new sponsors coming aboard in Barcelona.
You mean the same sponsors HRT signed at the start of 2011?
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