Oh man you will upset the masses with that!flmkane wrote:Lurk wrote:Raikkonen was replaced by Alonso, Alonso left because of Hamilton, Newey departure didn't hurt them too much (pb was Newey building a whole team around him) as all their cars competed for the championship except in 2006, 2009 (KERS mess but a rocket at the end) and 2011. Fry departure was not a problem either.
McLaren is able to stay competitive whatever happened, but it also what cost them some titles. As long as they keep their philosophy, they won't be hurt by some departures. But they will struggle to clinch titles too.[/quote\
There are too many 'what ifs' there to be able to really see 'what could have been'. But lets see what 'has been.'
No constructors title since 1998.
1 drivers title in 2008, under the OLD regulations, in a car in a car with Adrian Newey's designs in it's bloodline.
And lets not pretend Newye's departure did not hurt them. In the long run it was a DEVASTATING loss. With Newey, we might have been in the middle of the 'Mclaren Era' instead of the Red Bull Era.
And all those great drivers leaving the team. It doesn't matter who replaced them, this has been a trend for the last 20 years. Contrast that with Ferrari during the Schumacher era. Contrast that with Alonso and Ferrari, or Alonso and Renault. Compare that with Vettel, Webber and Red Bull. And take a look at the treatment that Ferrari gives to Massa. FERRARI! The team of the devil, treats their drivers FAR better!
Also, before anyone can accuse me, I'll come out clean and say that I'm indeed a disgruntled Mclaren fan.
It's like a crapy version of Lewis Hamiltons helmets not a good one like this was maid for Lewis but when he looked at it the thing looked ugly so he didn't use it..... Nd here comes Sergio in it.. "Here you go mate we maid this thinking specially for you..."diego1960 wrote:Cheko's design is really awful. He should have stuck with the one he had in 2012, this one is horrible, without imagination and unrecognizable.
it's still hamilton car and button car, MP4-28 is evolution of MP4-27, every input from last season from MP4-27 was used for making new car, i could understand if regulation changed or something, but regulations are same. button probably expect similar driving car so he is not worried, it's not that hamilton was key mclaren guy and because he is not here mclaren will stop working and no one except hamilton can't explain them what to do next for perez, he probably drived mp4-27 in simulator so when he get in mp4-28 can see what differences between last and this year car are.KATO wrote:It's like a crapy version of Lewis Hamiltons helmets not a good one like this was maid for Lewis but when he looked at it the thing looked ugly so he didn't use it..... Nd here comes Sergio in it.. "Here you go mate we maid this thinking specially for you..."diego1960 wrote:Cheko's design is really awful. He should have stuck with the one he had in 2012, this one is horrible, without imagination and unrecognizable.
But one thing Sergio said about Button maid me think.. Last years car was a Hamilton car mostly.
This years car was supposed to be a Button car, but according to Buttons Twitter account and Button and Perez. Jenson has spent all winter away until just a few weeks ago..... Now didn't Button say he was gona work on the car with the Engineers and get that done.. Instead he went running, bike riding, and swimming. So who did the engineers work with on the car.... Did they work with any of the drivers? Sergio and McLaren say he's in there all winter since before they presented him officialy with Saubers consent. However they say he was there to work in the simulator not the car. So I ask who did the engineers work with on the MP4-28 is it just an evolution of the MP4-27 a Lewis car or is it....... What is it? We know Jensons fit and that's good for him but. What about the car what about the team and I have one single question all the rest is rubbish.
Have the engineers had free range to design a car to their full capacity with the fact that Sergio was in the simulator and Button was out running, swimming, and bike riding or did Button manage to Phone it in-??
Better yet did they work with Lewis on the car-?? Lol jp.. I just want to know if Button indeed have the MP4-28 designed for him like he said it would be or not??