Talks- yes, agreement in April is news to me. Link please?gilgen wrote: Of course Schumi was shown the door. The talks and agreement with Hamilton, dated back to APRIL. So from then on, Merc F1 KNEW that Schumacher would not be staying with the team.
So who have they lost over 2011/12?Mika1 wrote:The situation:
-Ross Brawn
-Nick Fry
-Geoff Willis
-Bob Bell
-Aldo Costa
-Mike Elliot
-Nikki Lauda
-Toto Wolff
-Paddy Lowe
You can be sure someone has to go. I expect Brawn and Fry.
Looks like they want to build a complete team out of managers. I always wondered how quick Brawn would be with a wheelgun.Mika1 wrote:The situation:
-Ross Brawn
-Nick Fry
-Geoff Willis
-Bob Bell
-Aldo Costa
-Mike Elliot
-Nikki Lauda
-Toto Wolff
-Paddy Lowe
You can be sure someone has to go. I expect Brawn and Fry.
Common knowledge! Ask Sergio when talks about joining Mc Laren were initiated. Hamilton had already committed to Merc, and McLaren need a replacement.jav wrote:Talks- yes, agreement in April is news to me. Link please?gilgen wrote: Of course Schumi was shown the door. The talks and agreement with Hamilton, dated back to APRIL. So from then on, Merc F1 KNEW that Schumacher would not be staying with the team.
Also- Schumachers non commitance to 2013 predates april... as far back as 2010, he has always said he would honor his 3 year deal and decide only near the end of his contract.
I find it perfectly reasonable that Merc had talks with Hami (and others) to protect thier interests...and they did. Both Haug and Brawn are on record as wanting Schumi to stay on but both stated that decision was his. They are also on record that Schumi was kept aware of negotiations. Why keep him in the loop if the decision were already made that he's gone?
Schumacher wasn't shown door as much as he was outside the door and his indecision allowed the door to be closed on him. Now we could debate if that was his intention or not but I'll readily admit I have no facts to support my beliefs here.
Where was this reported?winth304 wrote:it was reported, that schumacher was so upset to be dumbed and also the way he was dumbed that straight after he was told about his demission he called in a press conference within 5mins!
At least for the first few laps:)FoxHound wrote:The W03 was fast out the blocks, lets remember that at least.
Interesting.Asked whether he will rue Hamilton's departure from McLaren, Button said: "I'm not disappointed because there's always change.
"I'd be disappointed if Paddy Lowe moved from the team because that's the guy who's going to help me achieve in the future.
"Whereas with Lewis, drivers come and go and people change, and that's pretty normal in the sport.
I believe Tombazis was linked with them in early 2010, but it may have been simply based no the expectation that Brawn wanted to get all his old Benetton/Ferrari people around him.Raptor22 wrote:Looks very much like Ross was focussed in increasing the teams net work through employing high profile engineers which would be in line with him never wanting more out of it than to sell the team on down the line again.
Mercedes are probably serious about wanting to win now after three years of phaffing about. Bringing Toto Wolfe and Paddy Loew would be a smart move.
the guys they'e really missing is Tomabazis or Prodromou but I doubt they'd get either