Do you really believe all that nonsense?FoxHound wrote:Whitmarsh isn't responsible for design direction. The front pull rods where part of a change due to the 2012 mclaren reaching the absolute peak of what they could muster from that particular design.
Alot of mclaren PR is testimony to that.
He is accountable for the team, not responsible for design direction.
Also we have to factor in that Whitmarsh' tenure as team principle coincided with Mercedes pulling the plug on them leaving less pennies available to spend on the car as has usually been the case.
And there is the added distraction of mclaren becoming a "manufacturer" in its own right.
Barring the pit stop errors I dont really see how Dennis would have achieved more in the same circumstances.
I explained he is accountable for the team. And this encompasses the design team.Del Boy wrote:Of course he is responsible for design decisions. The expression is the buck stops here.
Not quite sure but he mainly talks about Honda rumors and has nailed just about every one of them. The F1 stuff has come out since Honda is joining with Mclaren. I had somebody join this forum and PM me asking me about where I got my information when I posted Honda would join with Mclaren a while back.Holm86 wrote:Who is this guy?dren wrote:This is taken from another website from a guy who is almost always right about this stuff. Most of what he says has come true:
Ron Dennis has took over as CEO,replacing Martin Whitmarsh!
Ron is back in control of the company.
The Team Principal will be announced next month.(Brawn?)
The F1 car will be most likely orange.
I have to agree there. The choice for Mclaren to be a "Ferrari" outside of F1 coincided with Mercedes wanting to become more involved. It was a win win for both teams to split at that point. The internal structure of Mclaren needs to be changed. Hamilton leaving was a big blow.FoxHound wrote:Whitmarsh isn't responsible for design direction. The front pull rods where part of a change due to the 2012 mclaren reaching the absolute peak of what they could muster from that particular design.
Alot of mclaren PR is testimony to that.
He is accountable for the team, not responsible for design direction.
Also we have to factor in that Whitmarsh' tenure as team principle coincided with Mercedes pulling the plug on them leaving less pennies available to spend on the car as has usually been the case.
And there is the added distraction of mclaren becoming a "manufacturer" in its own right.
Barring the pit stop errors I dont really see how Dennis would have achieved more in the same circumstances.
Why, coz Ron will be in charge and they will be more restrictive towards MCL? c'mon man.......McG wrote: I hope Ron comes back then McLaren become ultra competitive with Honda, maybe even dominate. But I'm sure nearly nearly every innovation of theirs will be banned very quickly.
I think they will always, in our lifetime anyway, be restrictive to McLaren. I don't know if they saw through the whole get Martin to play nice guy for a while but it certainly didn't do McLaren any good anyway.bauc wrote:Why, coz Ron will be in charge and they will be more restrictive towards MCL? c'mon man.......McG wrote: I hope Ron comes back then McLaren become ultra competitive with Honda, maybe even dominate. But I'm sure nearly nearly every innovation of theirs will be banned very quickly.
danielk wrote:I wonder. Did Ron always intend to return? Ron left i assume on the back end of the "spygate" he said it was for other resons but spygate was 2007 July time they were then fined in about sept probably paid it winter 2007 He did not want it to appear he was stepping down due to spygate so remained in charge for 2008, however realizing what damage the thing had caused mclaren had to put a new face up there so he resigned before the 2009 season was under way. Mclaren needed someone who was a pleasant guy, give Mclaren an image of this more responsible team. Witmarsh fitted that and although has not done great at bringing championships i think he has repaired allot of the damage caused in 2007. (i say this but then i remember the Hamilton overtaking under the safety car scandal, and blatant lies)
However Mclarens image has now repaired, Vodafone no longer being sponsors (could this have been a deal breaker back then? vodafone began sponsorship at the beginning of 2007 7 months in "spygate" i think vodafone deal was worth something like £500 mill to mclaren. Could they have insisted Ron step down? and now they have gone he steps back up. hmmmmmmm) The 2013 season is in my view a good excuse to get Ron back at the head of Mclaren but I think other reasons are behind it.