#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
Andres125sx wrote:Same as if I say....mrluke wrote:Mclaren Honda average gap from fastest qualy time to fastest Mclaren driver over whole season
2013: 1.359s
2014: 1.590s
2015: 2.786s
At the very most the deficit is 1.4s aero and 1.4s Honda PU.
At the very most the deficit is 1.4s PU and 1.4 s because of alignment of Mars and Pluto
Specially when McLaren is using new cars (new aero) each season and three different PU/engines in those three seasons, so you simply can´t know how much difference is related to each component
Add to that even Arai admits most of the deficit is their own fault and your statement is complete nosense
They never said anything like that, please stop inventing to bash McLaren. Most similar thing they said is their chasis is fourth best on the grid after Mercedes, Red Bull and Toro Rosso. Fourth best for a team like McLaren is not something to be too proud if you ask me, but even so it obviously is better than the PU wich is the last in the gridmrluke wrote:Mclaren should be taking responsibility for a minimum 50% blame for their poor performance rather than trying to say they have the best chassis on the grid.
HmmThunders wrote:Only Alonso gets the updated Engine as Honda couldn't make enough Parts for 2 Engines and Fernandos Engine has more miles than Jensons.
http://beta.autosport.com/news/report.p ... so-penalty
I take it this upgrade or any upgrades in 2015 for that matter is centered around improving combustion. The major layout changes will be for 2016. Note the "Compressor area" he is refering to is everything between the V of the engine not just the compressor itself. And he says it is "not going to happen" he means not going to happen in 2015 but it WILL happen for 2016.""The logical step is to change the compressor area, but because of the layout that's not going to happen. We are still looking to improve the internal combustion side of the engine, but without changing the layout."
I think the bigger loss was Paddy Lowe to Mercedes.ChrisF1 wrote:Foxhound, you're ignoring that the team has undergone changes over the last few years. PP coming in, Ron Dennis more involved, Whitmarsh and Sam Michael removed.
To suggest the team is still on the same spiral would be wrong when you think that the changes made could actually be worth 2-3 tenths in the positive or negative direction.
I have to agree with this partially. At some point Mercedes was hiring up everyoneFoxHound wrote:I think the bigger loss was Paddy Lowe to Mercedes.ChrisF1 wrote:Foxhound, you're ignoring that the team has undergone changes over the last few years. PP coming in, Ron Dennis more involved, Whitmarsh and Sam Michael removed.
To suggest the team is still on the same spiral would be wrong when you think that the changes made could actually be worth 2-3 tenths in the positive or negative direction.
Not only this, but I think there was a bit of a brain drain from McLaren to Mercedes in 2012, which explains both their 2013 form onwards.
My suggestion is not that the team is in a spiral, I'm commenting that McLaren themselves are nowhere near as good as they think they are...Yet.
I don't understand why 're-design of the turbo can be now done without any tokens spent during the winter period'?bauc wrote:@Thunders - I think this was not the initial plan, but since the re-design of the turbo can be now done without any tokens spent during the winter period, I guess this has put some other options in motion.
I was under the impression the token system was only valid for 2015 then they revert to the planed % of changes allowed until holomogation on 28th February 2016 when they are locked down until after the final event.diffuser wrote:I don't understand why 're-design of the turbo can be now done without any tokens spent during the winter period'?bauc wrote:@Thunders - I think this was not the initial plan, but since the re-design of the turbo can be now done without any tokens spent during the winter period, I guess this has put some other options in motion.
Next year the wastegate must have an outlet separate from the turbine. Apparently this will be noisier.diffuser wrote:I don't understand why 're-design of the turbo can be now done without any tokens spent during the winter period'?bauc wrote:@Thunders - I think this was not the initial plan, but since the re-design of the turbo can be now done without any tokens spent during the winter period, I guess this has put some other options in motion.
is it the case ?. i did not see any news on this. i will welcome the arrival of Tombazis , he is good engineer and can help honda at many fronts but Pat fry , i will prefer to see him Retired , he is an average guy.WilliamsF1 wrote:Are Pat Fry and Nikolas Tombazis back at McLaren?
#aerogollumturbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!