Ferrari president Sergio Marchionne said that the team embarked on a new journey and he promised to raise the bar of competitiveness even more next year.
That was Alan Permane. Grosjean didn't fall down the ladder that day, funny eh?evered7 wrote:Is it the dude that left Kimi out on worn tires leading him to fall down the ladder massively in India (I think) in 2013?Kiril Varbanov wrote:According to Omnicorse and AS, Iñaki Rueda, Lotus strategist, will start at Ferrari in Malaysia as Head of Race Strategy.
Because he pitted 6 laps later than Kimi? This was not the first instance of such a 'drop off a cliff' happening that season as well.Juzh wrote:That was Alan Permane. Grosjean didn't fall down the ladder that day, funny eh?evered7 wrote:Is it the dude that left Kimi out on worn tires leading him to fall down the ladder massively in India (I think) in 2013?Kiril Varbanov wrote:According to Omnicorse and AS, Iñaki Rueda, Lotus strategist, will start at Ferrari in Malaysia as Head of Race Strategy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZARtyrMU6E
He was able to do that with better tyre management?evered7 wrote: Because he pitted 6 laps later than Kimi?
What happened 6 laps later then or did they drive different number of laps? Just like China 2012 falling off the cliff happened to a driver not a strategist. Look at the bright side, maybe he was responsible for 2012 Hungary and plenty of other similar races.evered7 wrote:Because he pitted 6 laps later than Kimi? This was not the first instance of such a 'drop off a cliff' happening that season as well.Juzh wrote:That was Alan Permane. Grosjean didn't fall down the ladder that day, funny eh?evered7 wrote:Is it the dude that left Kimi out on worn tires leading him to fall down the ladder massively in India (I think) in 2013?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZARtyrMU6E
The only two drivers to attempt a two stop strategy were the Lotus drivers. Others went for three or worse four pitstops. Kimi drove 51 laps on those tires. No matter how good you are able to nurse a tire, there will be an end point for it.iotar__ wrote:What happened 6 laps later then or did they drive different number of laps? Just like China 2012 falling off the cliff happened to a driver not a strategist. Look at the bright side, maybe he was responsible for 2012 Hungary and plenty of other similar races.evered7 wrote:Because he pitted 6 laps later than Kimi? This was not the first instance of such a 'drop off a cliff' happening that season as well.evered7 wrote:Is it the dude that left Kimi out on worn tires leading him to fall down the ladder massively in India (I think) in 2013?
I'm not even sure head of strategy is "leaving drivers on track", isn't it the person crunching numbers and giving optimal options to choose from?
Even if we consider that Grosjean was able to manage his tires better, doesn't it show that the strategist couldn't come up with a good one for Kimi considering his deficiency?Juzh wrote:He was able to do that with better tyre management?evered7 wrote: Because he pitted 6 laps later than Kimi?
This is going in circles with 2 wrong assumptions: 1. that a driver is not to blame for anything, never, ever and 2. 6 laps decided something. So one more time to end this off topic: strategy was not wrong, other driver managed that. 6 laps are not important, 1. stints are connected (example: later stop = lost time on softs = more pace required from mediums = bigger deg), 2. you can find exactly the same distance after the pitstop (adjusted) and you will find that one driver had pace and the other did not. (I'm guessing but I'm not checking if they had the same tyresevered7 wrote:The only two drivers to attempt a two stop strategy were the Lotus drivers. Others went for three or worse four pitstops. Kimi drove 51 laps on those tires. No matter how good you are able to nurse a tire, there will be an end point for it.
The fact is that Kimi pitted 6 laps earlier than Grosjean to take the medium tires and considering that he was only again pitted before the final couple of laps, I take it that if he was asked to do lesser number of laps in the medium, he would have been better off.
I wasn't sure if the person in question was the one deciding these, hence the question. Didn't accuse him of doing it outright.
).I never said the driver isn't to blame. You mentioned that it has happened to the same driver before and hence I questioned why wasn't it corrected in the next instance. The tires that year were prone to falling off the cliff and the extra laps meant that Kimi was susceptible to it. Since they eventually did do another stop, the better choice would have been to have stopped him once he started losing out to his team mate instead of waiting till the end. I understand that the stints are connected but the intention would surely be to finish the race in minimum possible time and not minimum # of pitstops.iotar__ wrote: This is going in circles with 2 wrong assumptions: 1. that a driver is not to blame for anything, never, ever and 2. 6 laps decided something. So one more time to end this off topic: strategy was not wrong, other driver managed that. 6 laps are not important, 1. stints are connected (example: later stop = lost time on softs = more pace required from mediums = bigger deg), 2. you can find exactly the same distance after the pitstop (adjusted) and you will find that one driver had pace and the other did not. (I'm guessing but I'm not checking if they had the same tyres
Now, even if it was a bad strategy, even if said person was responsible that's not how you judge someone's qualifications - based on one race. I also stand by my uninformed assumption that head of strategy is the one crunching numbers, preparing scenarios based on FP times, track conditions etc. and not calling pitstops directly. Safe bet it was Allison's decision to hire him, also a bit sad that draining of Lotus by Ferrari continues.
This guy is the real hero.. From 4th best car to now challenging Mercedes for wins. Big improvement from Ferrari.bhall II wrote:http://i.imgur.com/dvoQZxi.jpg
Looking like a smart move already.Kiril Varbanov wrote:According to Omnicorse and AS, Iñaki Rueda, Lotus strategist, will start at Ferrari in Malaysia as Head of Race Strategy.
Absolutely, he is very good at doing his job. Plus Allyson is the big hero here, what a great job he has done.Jonnycraig wrote:Looking like a smart move already.Kiril Varbanov wrote:According to Omnicorse and AS, Iñaki Rueda, Lotus strategist, will start at Ferrari in Malaysia as Head of Race Strategy.
