2017 Red Bull Racing Team - Tag Heuer

[NL_Fer]

Looking at momentum, Mercedes and Redbull are the ones to beat 2017. But one thing that bothers me, Redbull has only been succesfull in the low-DF era. The pre '09 cars weren't special. But in that period they were just starting the team. Still a slight chance of McL and Scuderia coming back strong with a classic high-DF car.

[FPV GTHO]

I wouldn't be concerned. The current era is not that low DF. Going back to 2010 with the f ducts, double diffusers and blown diffusers, Red Bull clearly had the fastest car. What let down the 2005-2008 cars was the level of investment in the team, and the technical department playing catchup with the inwash front wings and the aero development that came with that. If Red Bull themselves were concerned, they wouldn't have pushed for the biggest gains to come from the new rules either.

[diego.liv]

So if i got it right, Merc/RB solutions are banned if the main purpose is aero gains, as it has been for years now. No problem with that, it's about different or clever interpretation of the regulations. Now the italian Motorsport reports this case

http://it.motorsport.com/f1/news/merced ... ll-862861/

Merc has asked the FIA about RB's chassis, particularly if it complies with the regulations regarding the A-A section: the two little openings (google will transate "ears of the devil") are part of the question, even though the article doesn't go into details; i suppose it's about interpreting "what is considered part of the chassis, where does it ends etc..."
But the puzzling part is the last paragraph:

At first the FIA responded that the interpretation of Milton Keynes would not be up to standard, but then Charlie Whiting would have changed his mind; being aware that the chassis of a car is now well under construction and that there would not be enough time to modify it, the matter will be taken care of at the next meeting to be held in February to define a regulatory amendment for 2018.

[Manoah2u]

that is interesting.

[ME4ME]

"The Team is therefore delighted to announce that in the pursuit of that competitive advantage it is to expand its relationship with leading-edge software specialist Citrix, who will become an Innovation Partner of the Team."

http://www.redbullracing.com/article/te ... nstoppable

[Manoah2u]

in regards to the matte paint, i can't help but think about this article

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/artic ... ng-381646/

[ME4ME]

Matte paint on the race trucks

[Manoah2u]

Yes, hence my link. looks great though. great job to drive around f1 cars though. is it a standard all-season contracted job? as in,
do the truck drivers travel also towards other continents and drive the trucks there to the venues?

[lio007]

Not long now until the action begins...
https://twitter.com/RdBullRacing/status ... 7032623104

[Sevach]

Looking at momentum, Mercedes and Redbull are the ones to beat 2017. But one thing that bothers me, Redbull has only been succesfull in the low-DF era. The pre '09 cars weren't special. But in that period they were just starting the team. Still a slight chance of McL and Scuderia coming back strong with a classic high-DF car.

Kinda of unfair, the team ran 05 and 06 basically with the Jaguar scraps.

2007 was essentially the first year that the structure Red Bull put in place was responsible for anything and they were coming from a long way back, in 08 the main team was hampered by a weak engine, the B team with a chassis always lagging behind in development was doing quite well.

Essentially just 2 years, coming from a long way behind coupled with extra issues.
Plus the fact that with the big 09 changes already on the horizon it wouldn't make much sense to go for broke in 08, the car was an evolution and the team needed to split resources.
Red Bull was improving, it simply wasn't enough time.

[FPV GTHO]

Toro Rosso at one point in 2008 was legitimately doing better than Red Bull with the same parts thanks to Giorgio Ascanelli. It doesn't really matter though, Red Bull in general didn't invest heavily until 2009, unlike BMW for example who I believe started spending big as soon as 2006 when they took over Sauber.

[FW17]

The difference between a Ferrari engine and a Renault engine in 2008 was as big as it was in 2015

[gandharva]

Sounds like they feel very comfy this year. =D>

[ME4ME]

Such a great season preview. The team seems quitely confident, although somewhat cations about beating Mercedes. They do seem very happy and proud of their driver-lineup and aero department.

They mention the crucial importance of managing tyre wake, so expect some very refined "brake ducts", floor cut-outs, bardgeboards and obviously the front wing. From what they say about lessons learned in '15 and 16 it sounds like they'll continue on the path of running high rake. Newey also confirms that Copse at Silverstone and Turn9 at Barcelona will be flat-out. Can't wait to see the car.

[f1rules]

Yep it definitly is. And they seem very confident, lets hope they can challenge the mercs

Such a great season preview. The team seems quitely confident, although somewhat cations about beating Mercedes. They do seem very happy and proud of their driver-lineup and aero department.

They mention the crucial importance of managing tyre wake, so expect some very refined "brake ducts", floor cut-outs, bardgeboards and obviously the front wing. From what they say about lessons learned in '15 and 16 it sounds like they'll continue on the path of running high rake. Newey also confirms that Copse at Silverstone and Turn9 at Barcelona will be flat-out. Can't wait to see the car.